My 5Yr Old Is like a Light Switch, Is It Me or Does He Need Help?

Updated on November 30, 2006
S.G. asks from Tulsa, OK
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I have a 5yr old who is beyond frustrating. Everyday I wake up and know I have to wake him up. Will he wake up happy, or will we be threatned with 'being grounded' before he gets to breakfast? I just don't understand it. I have a daughter who is ten and she never acted like this. Each day I'm afraid of how he's going to act. He's in kindergarten and during school time, he's fine! But as soon as I pick him up, it's like he's a little spring that has been wound up all day and when he gets to me, BOING!!! He won't listen to half of what I say/tell him to do. In order to get him to truly listen, it seems as though I have to threaten him, he usually just won't do it on his own w/o some sort of consequences if he doesn't. And then there are the times when he gets mad - oh my gosh. You'd think it was another kid. He and his sister can be playing and having a great time, then she'll say something he doesn't like and all of a sudden you'll hear this voice from hell that yells at her "You're so stupid, I hate you. I wish you were dead!" He can get so mean and I just don't understand where it is coming from. No one else acts that way, nor have we. I've tried everything, all the way to the belt on the bottom and have come to realize that is not the answer. I am teaching him that I am stronger than he is and when mommy gets really mad, she is big enough to do something bad and he isn't...yet. So I stopped the belt. I'm not totally against a spanking if truly warranted, but it has to be as a last resort, not a first consequence.
Overall, I am very consistent in my discipline. I've always been adament about making the consequences fit the behavior. Example: 1) He colored on the desk - it took him almost an hour to clean it up all by himself. 2) He spoke mean to his sister - he wasn't allowed to speak to her for 1/2 the day, 3) I told him not to slam his door when he was playing and if he did it again I'd take it off - he slammed it again, it came off the hinges till the next day - and so on. I try very hard to make the consequence relate to the action and I don't 'threaten' I do follow through. When I count, I only count to three and then I resolve the problem whether it's a way that is liked or not.
A lot of what I see it seems like is couped up energy. We he gets out of school, he is ready to go. He's a very active child, and I mean active! He always wants to be on the go, and go, and go.....
Also, our family right now is very 'out of whack'. My husband is rarely home, as in maybe every other weekend due to his job. He has to maintain a residence in the state where his job is for security reasons, so he has an apartment in another state. Not only that, he's off to Japan in a week and we won't see him till Dec 19th. When he's home though, he spends lots of time with the kids, especially our son. I know this has to have someting to do with my son's behavior, but is it the whole reason and if so, what can I do about it? The job situation isn't going to change anytime soon and we can't afford to move to where my husband lives (nor do we want to). It's a BIG city and a horrible place to live/raise kids. Last year we were told he was going to loose his job in Dec. So, we jumped at the opportunity to move to a better place. After we moved, they told him they were mistaken and that his job was fine - nice huh? Anyways, we are so happy here and it's so much better for the kids, but he has a very good paying job and I'm sure all of you could understand we can't just give that up. Plus, he's in a very specialized field and it's hard for him to find jobs. So, until they really do let him go, we three are here and he's there most of the time.
I've been reading about 'bi-polar/ADHD/seeking a Dr's help etc and honestly just don't know what to do. From the symptoms I've read, I don't 'think' he's any of those, but I'm getting to a point where I'm starting to ask if this 'phase' is ever going to end. I totally lost it with him two weeks ago and am so mad at myself for losing control like that I could spit. How could something so little make you reach a point where you just want to throttle them? I didn't and walked away, but I did not like the fact that I felt that way.
It seems as though there's always a control issue outside of school. At school, they have this 'bee' system where each day they start off in the beehive. If they misbehave, they get moved to the sunflower where they need to sit and think about how to change their behavior. If they continue with bad behavior, they get moved to the honey pot where they're in a 'sticky situation' and get sent to the vice principal. When I read about this system, I prayed we'd go at least the first week w/o getting to the honey pot. I never, nor would I ever say anything to my son of what I was thinking, but guess how long it took him to get to the honey pot? HE HASN'T YET, not once. Sunflower, maybe 10 times, but no honeypot. Others have, but mine hasn't. Yet when he gets home - BAMM - totally different kid. He's not always mean, but it's like walking on eggshells, you never know when it's going to start.
Funny, but the more I'm writing, the more I'm realizing where some of the problems may be arising from. Well, I'm still going to put this out there to see what others say. I'm a very loving mom, I always make sure my kids know they are loved and I'm never afraid to show them affection. My son loves that - and I'm starting to wonder if maybe b/c dad is gone, he needs even more? Seems so simple, but sometimes those answers right in front of us are the hardest to find. He's very kind and sweethearted, but instantly he can change, and that scares me.
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Hello to all, especially to those who wrote a response. I thought I'd share this last week with you. After writing my letter, it occured to me that my son needs me and my attention. When my daughter was growing up, I gave her all my attention. She never had to fight for it, let alone not get it at all b/c of a sibling sometimes. The other thing I realized was that I was favoring my daughter. It's awful, but it's true. I figured out that even though I do so much with/for my kids, I don't really show my son anywhere near the amount of attention he deserves at this age. When my daughter was five, she was in Kindergarten 5 mornings, then I would pick her up and we'd have lunch, play, nap whatever. My son at the same age goes to Kinder all day and when I pick him up we go home to me helping his sister do homework, me cooking dinner and me putting him to bed. Not much else unless it's a day my daughter has riding lessons, in which he sits in the truck and watches TV. I realized that it's very easy to 'placate' his time to give me time, but now I'm realizing that he doesn't need to be placated, he needs my attention.
So, this past week I had a talk with his sister and told her what I thought and how some things were going to change. I explained to her that she's getting older and there are some things she needs to start doing on her own and both of us have got to take responsibility better. I told her of how much time I was spending with her at this age and how much I don't spend with her brother at the same age. It was quite an eye opener for both of us and we agreed on some new courses of action. One of those was no more spankings, especially with the belt. I truly believe that it was teaching him nothing except that if you're bigger you can hit with no consequences, and to be afraid of mommy. I will have to come up with other solutions when discipline is needed. So, this past week, instead of helping my daughter with all of her homework, she came home and did it by herself and when she had a question or problems, then I would help. In the meantime though, I spent that time with my son playing with him, what he wanted to play. One night he asked if a friend could come over and I said yes and we all played together. That night when the friend left, he came up and gave me this huge hug and said he loved me. It's been a long time since that has happened.
There have been moments when the situation was about to go bad, but instead of telling him to 'watch it' or 'I'd be very careful about what you're going to say', I stopped what I was doing and took a few moments to take him aside, sit and ask him what's wrong and talk him through it. I used to do this with my daughter, but I don't with my son. When I thought about it, I realized that with two, things get more hectic and rather than take the little extra time to deal with the root of the problem, I just found ways to avoid or ignore it. If I had taken the time with him a few years ago like I did with my daughter at the same age, then he would probably be more like her. But instead, I found myself just 'not wanting to deal with it' and doing whatever I had to to make him stop the behavior. Problem was, I was only stopping the behavior, I wasn't stopping the cause. And, I wasn't taking the time to find out the cause, hence ignoring what was going on in his litlle mind/world.
So, for the past week that's what I've done. I remind myself that he is ONLY 5 and that I need to remember that. I shouldn't expect him to behave like his sister b/c he's not 10. He is a boy and his sister is a girl. What rocks his little world IS important to him and it should be important to me when I'm trying to help him. I need to discipline in a loving way and only in rare cases with a spanking. It has been challenging, but it's becoming easier and easier each day to 'behave' better myself, and it is definitely showing with him and his behavior. He is returning to the sweet little boy we know and love. I had lunch with him at school and he thought that was just the best. I have always been able to have lunch with him - why haven't I done it? I used to volunteer so much in my daughter's class that the kids thought I was the other teacher. I haven't volunteered once in my son's class and I'm the homeroom mom! These are the types of things I've started seeing and I don't like myself very much for it right now. I 've really gotten selfish with 'my time' and it is stopping. My time is my son/daughter's lives right now and thank God He has shown me and reminded me of that.
Well, as I said, I have changed some things when it comes to spending time with him and just the amount of attention I give him and it is already proving to be that that's what the problem seems to be. This past week has been so much different, not only for him but for our whole family. My daughter is taking on some responsibility and she likes it. She has been working on different ways to talk to her brother and they have been doing much better as well. Daddy is going to start sending little letters or items in the mail when he is gone to let our son know he's thinking of him even though he's not home. Each day I come up with more ways to really show him we love him and that he's not just 'there' as I think he's come to think of himself in his little world. It has really made a difference in just a week, so now I'm actually looking forward to the future. I know this may not be everyone's solution, but I think I've found ours. I prayed on this and my prayers for help seem to be being answered. I think God opened my eyes and reminded me that I have two children that need the SAME amount of attention whether I'm in the mood or not. It's just too easy to forget with the second one because you learn so much with the first child that you say 'oh it's so much easier the second time b'c you know what to expect'.
In ending, I guess I'd just like to say, don't let yourself get burnt out. Remember that even though you've been through this before, our kids havent', this is their life and it's just the beginning. The second and after need us just as much as the first child did, and we can't let ourselves forget that.

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D.T.

answers from Tulsa on

I sorta have a boy just like yours at home. Now he's just like yours but before he was fully diagnosed with ADHD the school had the trouble and I had a "my version of normal" kid. But now his medication wears off on the bus home and I never know when he will flip that switch. It's like he explodes into activity and irritation. To handle it last year we read "The Explosive Child" by Ross Greene. I checked it out on tape from the library. You can find it at www.tulsalibrary.org This was a great beginning step for us but didn't translate well into the classrooom.

this website offers motives for bad behavior and ways to react without getting emotional and loud. http://lifematters.com/step.asp

My son's school gave me a book that uses the same program and this is the first and formost thing you need to know:

There are Four Goals of Misbehavior

Attention - All children desire and need attention. But a child who needs attention all the time will resort to behavior that is annoying. The parent responds by scolding or warnings and the child is temporarily satisfied but not for long.

Power - For some children their mistaken goal is to be in charge. By their misbehavior they are saying "I am in control" or "You can't make me". Parents feel angry and will meet the child in a power struggle. If the parent gives in the child "wins" and stops the behavior until the next power struggle arises.

Revenge - These children often feel they have been hurt or that they can never win in a power struggle. They feel the only way to belong is to get even. Parents feel hurt and rejected by this form of misbehavior.

Inadequacy - Often a child will give up displaying helplessness. They want to be left alone so they have no expectations to live up to. Parents feel helpless to do anything and feel like giving up as well. For many children this form of misbehavior is displayed only in certain areas like homework or activities.

These four goals of misbehavior give parents the clues they need to redirect their children and help them find positive ways to achieve their need to belong. Understanding that children are not consciously plotting their misbehavior but it is based on a child's mistaken goal, goes a long way in promoting a respectful parenting style.

To identify the mistaken goal parents ask themselves 3 questions.
1. When your child misbehaves, how do YOU feel?
2. What do you as the parent most often do in response to the misbehavior?
3. What does your child do in response?

It shows how to offer positive choices. Choices that result in good behavior from both of you.

I know it's easier to threaten so that he complies but that level of tough guy is hard to maintain. When you are raising kids alone and you are alone most of the time it's even harder to be both parents. If you take your own emotions out of the equation his will lessen over time.

Consider one more thing, he's hearing those statements at school, on television or in the neighborhood and trying them out at home to see if he gets the desired reaction. When you, sister or dad get out of control over it then he knows he has a button to push and will keep pushing that button.

I could go on and on. If you need more suggestions email me. I'm in Sand Springs and I can show you what we do. I'd offer you my book but I can't find it. I may have returned it to school.

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S.G.

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When my daughter started acting like this, she was acting out because of problems between her father and myself. Once we recognized this, we were able to remedy it. She was diagnosed with ADHD 3 years ago but the medication doesn't always do its job so we had to find other ways to help the situation.

We implemented a reward chart, where good behavior is rewarded with stars, which accumulate to merit tokens, which in turn can be redeemed for prizes once she has enough. She also gets stars for good grades in her trouble classes, namely math. She has always struggled with math, so when she started bringing home papers with 100% scores, we included them in the reward system. The only problem with this strategy is getting the child to understand the system.

If the child doesn't understand WHY he is getting rewards, he won't know how to earn them. It will seem random when rewards are earned and he won't learn anything from it. It took my daughter a while to "get it" but she finally did. She has since been able to get 2 prizes already, needing 25 stars to get enough for the tokens needed for ONE prize.

If you can get the idea across in a way he understands, you might be amazed at the difference it makes in his behavior.

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M.L.

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maybe have a child behavorist take a look at him and see what they think. He might have ADD or ADHD.

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P.B.

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WHAT WOULD YOUR PARENTS HAVE DONE TO YOU IF YOU HAD THIS BEHAVIOR? I BELKIEVE YOU MAY HAVE GOTTEN YOUR BUTT WHIPPED AND PUT IN TIME OUT OR SENT TO BED AFTER DINNER. I KNOW THAT FEELING MYSELF

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J.A.

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you just described my 6 year old son to a tee he was tested for bi-polar (his father is bi-polar ) and add and adhd (his sister is adhd) but he is none of that he is slightly behind other kids in school in learning which his counsler at school said could be frustrating to him but its not enough to warrent special education he is in speech therapy though because he is very far behind in his speech which does couse some of his behavor because he getts so mad if people dont understand him and ontop of that he is a very strong willed child every day is a struggle i never know how is going to act and homework forget that its like pulling teeth and bed time is a nightmare he gets up every morning at 7:30 am with no problem i wake him up and he is up and dressed in 5 minutes but bedtime forget it im lucky if he is a sleep buy 10 pm every night my head hitts my pillow i thank the lord for making it through another day with him i love him more than life and when he is in a good sweet mood i cant stop smiling but when he is in a bad mood i just want to hide in a corner and cry
so i know exactly what you are goin thru if you every need to vent or just chat remember me ill be glad to listen

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