Mom Needing Help...

Updated on July 20, 2010
C.S. asks from Herriman, UT
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So this is going to be kind of long, I'll make it as short as I can I'm just not really sure what I'm asking. ha ha! My darling almost 4 year old son is my life. He's brilliant and funny and amazing to say the least. I love him so much. I am having a hard time when it comes to disciplining him. I understand that all 4 year olds go through phases and he's just learning as I am. I've never had a 4 year old. He's my oldest and its been quite the ride. I look forward to what's ahead for all of us I really do. I love being a mom!
I think he may be "gifted". I've done some research on the subject and he fits most of what a gifted child is. I'm wondering if this has to do with why I don't feel like the discipline, no matter which route we take, is getting through to him. I just feel like I'm not in control. He doesn't get what he wants. I never give in to his demands. We just argue, a LOT! And its ridiculous. I've called him my little negotiator/lawyer many times. He argues everything and he yells and hits (not me, but the walls and couches and not hard). He has the biggest attitude I've ever seen. I'm in amazement one moment, laughing the next, and just not knowing what to do the next.
He also cries at the drop of a dime. The worst example is when we're leaving family members homes and he doesn't want to. I can give him warning after warning. "We'll be leaving in 20 minutes, 10 minutes, five minutes, time to pick up and say goodbye" it does nothing. He cries and not a whimper cry or pouting cry, like he just fallen ten feet off of a building on to concrete. His cousin takes something away. HE hits his cousin. A fly flies by him... All the same crying its extensive and getting a little embarrassing to be honest. We've told him that all he has to do is talk to us about what is going on. But his first reaction is to just cry like that. Its getting old and fast. He absolutely loves to be with his cousins playing. We've even made it so we're all leaving at the same time and all he does is cry like he's hurt. Sometimes he won't even talk to us he'll just cry like that so we are left to guess what happened. Time outs just don't work. I put him on them though because it takes him away from what is happening and calms him down. He gets 3 minutes and when he yells or refuses he gets another minute added on. He is sorry, apologetic and promises it won't happen again after a hug and a kiss. And we're right back to an attitude the next time something doesn't go his way. I wondered about the "gifted" thing because maybe there is something out there that works better for gifted children.
He's not an impossible child by any means and like I said I know that kids go through phases and stages and maybe this is just a long one?? I don't know. I just want some advice, on how to help with the crying. I feel like that is his way of getting attention but he IS NOT attention starved. I have to point that out. He's loved just as much as his little sister and if I think about it, probably gets a little more attention than her. Maybe some comfort in knowing that I'm not the only one who goes through this?? Some suggestions on discipline with gifted children. Anything. Nothing in our house is changing or has significantly in the past few months. I'm just at a loss and in need of some friendly advice. Thanks Mama's!

** I don't want to sound entirely like him may/may not being "gifted" is by any way, an excuse. I just feel like we've tried everything and nothing seems to work. Maybe I shouldn't have even written that. I didn't want to get in to why I think he may be gifted. I just wondered if there were parents of other children who may be gifted that have dealt with discipline problems. I too believe that all children are gifted in their own way. He's not a horrible child as to where I'd have to take everything but his bed out of his room. I just came here looking for some helpful, friendly ideas. Thanks!

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J.C.

answers from Anchorage on

Whether a child is "gifted" (I think all children are in their own way, personally) has nothing to do with discipline. If what you are doing is not working, get harder. I have heard of families having to remove everything from a child's room, leaving only the bed, in order to start to bring under control really bad behavior. By saying "maybe he is hard because he is gifted", if simply giving yourself an excuse as to why what you have tried has not worked. Part of it is age, this is normal for a 4 year old, and slowly gets better with time. My 6 year old has finally grown out of these behaviors, we are working with our 4 year old, and by being firm with him it is helping.

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D.M.

answers from Denver on

You are NOT the only one who goes through this. I agree with the person who said that you do have to reset boundaries and control. However, there are many ways to do this - some in very loving, firm and respectful ways. Books are a good start to getting some ideas. Then it's trial and error as to what works with each kid. However, don't change methods too often - that's lack of consistency. Think about what triggers the behavior, what immediate consequences there should be, then talk about it more when he's calmer. It seems he's not able to express his feelings w/ words (totally normal at this stage). However, I also agree that we have to not let them get away with the behavior - it will only continue. My vote is to try some logical consequences - maybe next time you are going to play let him know if he cries when you leave (throws a fit cries) he will not be able to come back on x day - or take a way TV for the night - something tangible he can see and feel as a natural consequence, not so much as a punishment. Then be very matter of fact about it. If he cries , calmly leave. When he calms down, remind him of the consequence. If he gets upset. Ask him what will you do next time so you can watch tv when we get home? Let him figure out that puzzle- he's bright - use that to your advantage. Good luck!

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L.C.

answers from Raleigh on

Check out a book "parenting by the book" by John Rosemond......it's amazing!!!!!!!

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J.S.

answers from Salt Lake City on

Have you ever seen the Love & Logic book specifically for ages birth to 6 years? If not - go get it from the library or a book store. It is well worth the time it takes to read it (which is not long). I don't follow everything it says, but it gave me some reallly good ideas & understanding of what was going on in these situations. It also gives very specific examples of what to do & say in situations that are very common & difficult to deal with.

The thing that sticks out to me in what you said about your situation is that you argue a lot. This book has really good strategies for dealing with that. I got this book from the library & read it in just a few hours. I then decided that it was so helpful, I bought a copy on Amazon for future reference. Reading your post, I really think it would be very helpful to you as it was to me.

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L.T.

answers from Cincinnati on

I know how frustrating behavior issues can be! Best thing you can do is be very clear as to what is and is not acceptable behavior. Set clear boundaries and enforce them. Your son needs to understand his behavior is his responsibility.

Whenever my kids pitched fits, I would put them in a neutral place away from everyone for time out. We had a laundry room on my 1st floor when I lived in AZ so it worked out great. No toys there, nothing unsafe the kids could reach, and also nothing to play with and no one to perform for!

You need to be firm and consistent. It is not OK for him to argue with you, it is disrespectful, and if you let it continue, you'll be dealing with it forever.

I highly recommend Boundaries with Kids by Dr.'s Cloud and Townsend. Google it for more info.

Good luck!

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