It's After Midnight and My 2 Year Old Just Now Went to Sleep!
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July 23, 2008
C.H.
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I know... All those new moms with babies crying in the middle of the night every 2-3 hours will not feel sorry for me, but I am so exhausted with my 2 year old's sleeping patterns. She wakes up every night, wanting to come to bed with us. When we don't give in right away, she gets so upset that she throws up. This is not pleasant, as you know. So, we end up giving in EVERY night. Then my daughter tosses and turns right next to me as I try to stay on the bed, hanging on for dear life to my pillow. So, tonight I am begging for some tips to put the little one to bed. We have tried being firm, we've tried being softies (mostly we are softies). We have a pretty good routine going until it's time to go to bed. Then the routine is that she gets very upset, screams, etc. OR, the other option is to hold her or pat her to sleep either in her bed or on our comfy chair in our laps. I know she's only 2, but I wonder if she knows that gagging on her tears gets me every time. But I don't want to clean up vomit every night either! Ugh! I was getting to the point tonight of extreme frustration (but tried my best not to show it). Anyway, if any of you have some methods you'd like to share, I'm open to just about anything. Thanks!
Thanks for all the advice. We decided not to let her clean up her own puke... Sorry ladies, that just isn't my style. I'm sure she probably just has a bad gag reflex like I do, which was making her choke on her tears and mucus. Anyway, we're going to try letting her sleep in our room on the floor if she gets up from her bed. So far, she has had little problem with it, as long as she can be near us. I figure she'll figure out eventually that her bed is more comfortable than the floor. It doesn't bother me to share the room with her as long as she first goes to bed in her bed. I read some great advice on here and appreciate all of it. It's nice to hear different points of view.
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H.K.
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Seriously if you just don't give in it will stop! I know it sounds trite but it works. It sucks bad not giving in but if you just keep it up she WILL stop. Trust me on this... I have 3 girls myself. Kids are smart... no matter how old they are and she KNOWS that if she cries enough you will give in. Stick with it and you won't regret it... You comfort her but don't pick her up or put her in bed with you. Just tell her it's night night time *or whatever you call it* and keep putting her back to bed... if she throws up clean her up and keep her in her bed. She will stop. Hope this helps.
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M.W.
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Make a bed time routine, bath, story, lay with her and tell her when she gets out of bed she will need to go back to her bed and stick to it! It is soo hard at first but believe me, from experience, it will pay off. She will come in and cry and throw up, but do not give in. If she throws up, have her clean it up. You will be thankful in the long run.
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You have taught her that if she cries and screams hard enough, she will get what she wants. It's a matter of taking a deep breath, knowing you'll have some unpleasant night and being consistent. Just have a wastebasket at the ready when you start to hear her gag.
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C.L.
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My son is 2 as well. He was breast fed, so only would go to sleep if he was/is close to me. Ever since I can remember he has a routine of bath, playing a bit with brother, telling everyone good night, then he got his bottle (now sippy cup) of milk and he'd sit in my lap why I watched TV (what I wanted, so it was boring to him) and I'd rock him to sleep in the recliner, then go lay him down. I still do this now, because he can now climb out of his crib, and if I were to leave him to fall asleep on his own (which he was doing for a long time till began climbing) he'd crawl right back out to play = P It's what works for us, so I do it! It doesn't bother me, it's our time to cuddle etc...
P.S. Some of these answers are rude and mean! NOT ALL kids puke when crying on purpose! My oldest did the same thing, and it's because he has a very bad gag reflex, not to get his way! Unless you know this Mom & child, don't be so hateful, degrading and mean! We all have issues we handle in our own ways, but don't talk down to another Mom just because you disagree with it! I'm saying this AFTER I've read a lot of the other answers!! Good Luck!!
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K.L.
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This is such a common problem in the US. Much of the rest of the world does not suffer this issue as we do. So, shouldn't we be willing to learn what we are doing wrong? After all, babies are babies everywhere and they don't just get up in the night crying because they enjoy it.
I studied this issue before my son was born. I knew I would be a better mother if I could sleep through the night. I also knew that many other cultures in the world seem to have better behaved and happier children than we do in the US, so I tried to understand what they did differently. In my research, I read a book, recommended by the nurse that taught our birthing class, and written by Tine Thevenin -- 'The Family Bed'. Tine theorizes that the most common reason children develop a fear of the dark was because parents respond to their cries and their needs during the day, but isolate them at night and try to let them 'cry it out' in the dark. This makes no sense to the child.
After understanding that this is one of the nautral ways that young children maintain intimate bonds with their parents, especially the parent(s) that are not with them throughout the day, it made perfect sense to me. Instead of a crib, we put a double-bed-sized mattress on the floor in our son's room. Our room had a bed large enough for three. He often went to bed with us, or one of us would go to bed with him in his room. If we wanted privacy, we simply switched beds once he was asleep. If he woke and went looking for us, he was welcome to join us or I would go with him back to the other bed. This allowed us all the flexibility we needed and our son never felt left out or rejected. It never became an issue and I only remember about 3 or 4 times he kept me up at night due to a fever. I didn't lose any significant sleep as a mother until he started driving a car. By the time he was 3, he was sleeping alone most nights. He just grew out of it naturally. He still climbed in bed with us on rare occasions until he was 5, maybe once or twice when he was 6 and only once at age 7 after a disturbing dream.
Although there can be other reasons children wake during the night, this is likely the most common. I have worked with many children over the years. The body has natural rhythms and has a different physiology at different times of the day. A doctor of Oriental Medicine understands this much better than those who simply study a pharmacy approach. A simple approach to acupressure that you can learn to do at home can be found at www.emofree.com. I once taught a mother to do this with a 4 y/o who could not stay asleep between 3:00 and 5:00 AM, precisesly. She just gently tapped a few acupoints with gentle words as the child went to sleep and he started sleeping through the night. When I was going through a difficult emotional time in my life, EFT is what helped me learn to sleep well again.
Although not directly about sleep issues, a book I recommend to every parent is 'The Family Virtues Guide', by Linda K. Popov. It teaches parents gentle and powerful strategies for dealing with 'teachable moments', which we often perceive as frustrations.
I'm sorry you and your daughter are suffering such frustrations, but hang in there and don't stop looking for the answers that work for you. Remember what you learn and teach it to your daughter so she may have an easier time with your grandchildren.
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V.M.
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Hi C.,
I think my response will be different than a lot of those you already received. So your daughter goes to sleep OK on her own in her bed, then wakes in the middle of the night and wants to sleep with you? I would go ahead and let her sleep with you, I don't think it's worth letting her get so upset that she throws up. She's only 2 years old. I know that sounds "old" compared to an infant, but we have to stop thinking of our 2 yr olds as grown up enough to do things we feel they should be able to do on their own with no problem. Each child is different and although some can sleep soundly by themselves all night, others can't. She may be going through some separation anxiety, you work out of the home and maybe it's her way of wanting to be closer to you and your husband. Children will go through so many phases and if you give her the extra security she needs right now, she will be better for it later. Continue to put her to bed like you do every night, then let her sleep next to you if she wakes. Sooner or later she will start sleeping through the night again once she's feeling more secure to do so.I realize it's harder sleeping next to a 2 yr old that moves around, my son is 2 1/2 and sleeps with me and my husband. He's the only one of my 3 children to do so, he just needed it more. Children no matter what the age can have sleep issues throughout childhood. Continue to be as patient as you can and take this advice to heart. Don't think of it as giving in or that's she's won this battle, just help her through this phase, after this one it'll probably be something else! Children do keep life intersting! Good luck and take care.
V.
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M.M.
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You know what? Don't feel bad if the Cry-It-Out method doesn't work for you. I've tried that method so many times & each time it works for only a certain amount of time until a growth spurt comes along or a new tooth or illness & you've got to re-establish the method all over again. How frustrating! Sleep is so great; why can't they understand that!? I agree with the person who suggested a sleeping bag on the floor. That way you get your space & she can be close to you. Eventually over time you might be able to slowly move her back to her room. I'd take small steps & hope she freaks out less than Cry-It-Out. My baby apparently doesn't understand Cry-It-Out b/c she'll cry for 90 minutes, sleep an hour & do it all over again, all night long & this went on for a good MONTH! So all the people who say it's all about consistency say that only b/c it worked for their kids. We have never deviated from our routine & it still didn't work the way we were told it would. I'm at least lucky enough to only to have to wake up once or twice a night & my baby is 9M. Good luck. Sleeping like a baby? Whoever said that was nuts!
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I'm not a mom but she's asleep. A little dad advise won't hurt ya. Tell your daughter ahead of time(few hours should do it) that in ect. time we will all be going to bed and we will be sleeping in our own beds. Don't try to be firm or stern, be informative. then at bed time put her in her own bed and inform her that there is not enough room in your bed for the three of you(justifying her removal from your bed) don't be apologetic; thems the facts. tell her truthfully that if she comes to your bed you will put her back in hers(which you will have to do even if its inconvenient because if you don't then she will have gotten her way anyway) then give good night love and leave the room. don't wait for her to argue(the discussion is now over) just leave the room. ;) now for the fun part; you must back up what you said with action. when she comes to your bed put her back in hers over and over. don't get mad or frustrated; repetitive, no emotion, unyielding, like a rock. when she realises that she's getting nowhere, she'll stop fighting. react the same even if she starts the puking; make sure that she isn't in your room when she starts that, clean her up without a word or sound(change her clothes if needed) then put her back in bed. repeat the puking stage as often as needed. I know this sounds harsh, and i know you don't want to clean up puke, but you probably didn't want to change poopie diapers for three years either. I know i sound mean, stubborn, bullheaded, and know it all; all those things are true. i'm also the loving father of a three year old who is just like me with a little bit of mom mixed in for sweetness. trust me it will work but its a marathon not a sprint. goodluck.
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J.R.
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My daughter did that and requested mile bottles up to 6 times per night. We were her personal wait staff. Then someone suggested that I make an appointment at the St. Lukes Sleep Center with Nancy Birkmeier. It was teh best $40 copay I ever paid. We met with her for 2 hours, without our daughter. She developed a plan based on her habits. We put the plan into effect the following weekend and she has been sleeping through the night ever since.
Like I said, the best $40 co-pay EVER!!
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L.F.
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This question seems to have sparked a fire in a lot of Moms...probably sleep-deprived too:) and I just wanted to encourage you to "TAKE WHAT YOU LIKE AND LEAVE THE REST". The hard thing about this format is that type written words can be taken in the wrong way. And, sometimes the words used don't convey the true feelings behind them. The fact is we all love our children or we wouldn't be taking the time to get on this website and find out more information and learn different ways of doing things. Just because someone else does it different than me doesn't mean they are wrong or bad...it just means they tried a different way than me. SO PLEASE, anyone reading this...give each other a break and stop being so judgemental of each other's responses and opinions! If you've taken the time to respond to someone's question than you obviously have empathy for what they are going through and if you don't respond out of true concern than STOP logging into this website just to act like a bully!
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L.G.
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I am a mom of 10 (yes, they are all mine!) I have a 2 year old little girl now also. We have her on a toddler bed in our room. There are a lot of nights she wakes up, and just needs to know that we are there. When she wakes up I talk very sweet and kind to her and just have her lay back down on her bed. I will stay by her for a few minutes and she goes back to sleep. Sometimes I pick her up and hold her for a few minutes too. I know for my little one that she seems to be having a bad dream and sometimes even sleep walks. So we keep her close to us, yet in her own little area in our room. I have 2 older girls, 5 and 7 that still come to our room a couple times a week because they had a bad dream or woke up scared for some reason. You know how us girls are....maybe it is just a security issue. But I would hate for her to be so upset that she throws up. Maybe if she could just be closer to you, just not in your bed! I know how that feels to...I cannot sleep with a child in my bed. And if we do not get the sleep we need as parents then it affects how we start responding to our children.
I hope it all works out for you.
L.
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I was just wondering when all this started? Has she always had trouble going to sleep at night, or has this just become an issue in the last few months? My advice will probably seem off the wall and irrevelant, but please consider! It sounds to me like there might be an underlying issue. I have a 2 1/2yo and a 17 mo old (both girls) and we have really had an issue with pesticides/insecticides come May/June. Last year my older daughter was not like herself at all and I took her to a homeopathic practitioner and with a scan of a bio-feedback machine we realized it was pest/insectides. Her liver couldn't process it and it was causing a strain on her lymph and hormone systems, thus the crazy moods. We live on the outskirts of town and a lot of stuff is sprayed around us. This year my younger daughter had nagging allergy symptoms, but my older one had was just a basket case again. She would bawl at anything and could not follow directions. Within a few days of taking the remedy she was much better! If you are in Columbia I would recommend seeing Heather at Helath Options, Inc. Apparantly there are a lot of heavy metals in insecticides, as well as when they repave the road, and it is a lot harder for little ones bodies to process than it is for adults. The remedy is easy for them to take, just 3 drops two times a day and we have had great results.
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T.R.
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My daughter is trying this bs at night, too! she's 19 months and about to drive me flipping crazy. she just doesn't go to sleep, plays and plays, cries, plays, for HOURS until she passes out from sheer exhaustion. so here's some tips on what worked for us.
a) routine routine ROUTINE. supper, bath, teeth, bed, whatever works for you. but STICK TO IT. do NOT CAVE EVER. cannot emphasize that enough. give her a sip of water, fluff her pillow, lay her down, and RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.
b) it sounds heartless, but babygate the door so she CAN'T come to your room. put it however you need to to keep her from climbing out/going under...double em if ya have to. then it isn't worth the effort for EITHER of you to get her out.
c) if she pukes...well, she pukes. in her own room. which will horrify her. lay a towel on it and keep on keepin' on. have her help you clean it in the morning...it will work WONDERS for that little incident, i promise.
not to sound mean, but that's worked well for us. hope it helps! do not cave in grasshopper...better sleep means a happier mama and baby in the morning!
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E.W.
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Try putting a sleeping bag next to your bed. Let her come in whenever she wants and sleep in the sleeping bag next to your bed. That way she's still sleeping with you, but not sleeping with you. She is also free to just come in and do this on her own and doesn't have to wake you up to do it. Eventually she'll get bored with the sleeping bag and stop coming in.
Good luck.
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M.S.
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I'm not sure about any methods of how to get your daughter to sleep in her own bed. My husband and I had the same problem with all three of our boys. Although it was very hard to sleep some nights, we allowed the youngest to sleep with us. As the boys got bigger, and they kicked more, we made a bed on the floor next to our bed for them to sleep. My husband always said that "one of these days they will be all grown up and moved away and you will look back on these times with a smile". This is so true!! As they got a little older, they decided themselves when they wanted to start sleeping in their own rooms. They were all in their own rooms by the time they were 5 years old, if not before. It gave them a sense of security, and for whatever reason, they needed it at that time. There is a lot of worse things that you could be dealing with. She will grow out of it. Why fight it. She wants to be with her mommy and daddy. Night time is scary for little ones sometimes. Why let her cry until she almost vomits. She's only two. I'm sure she will grow out of this and want her own space. Until then, I say let her in your room and get some sleep!! :)
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K.C.
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It's hard. My oldest daughter had the same problems. Now, at 4, she sometimes wakes up at night and wants to sleep in our room, we have a bunch of blankets on the floor and she's welcome. I remember being so tired of laying with her for so long to get her to sleep and then getting up and wanting to stay up just to have some me time. Have you read the No Cry Sleep Solution by Elizabeth Pantley? I found it helped over and over again. She's just a kid who doesn't like to sleep. I know that more now that I have two kids.
One thing that helped with my older daughter is I found something I could repeat while I got her to sleep, it was something like "eyes closed, body still, relax and try to sleep," and it seemed to help. Also, a noise maker/fan has helped so much. Also, keep in mind that beds can be flexible, I agree with what someone wrote about the family bed stuff, and family bed doesn't have to be all or nothing. Think outside the box and find what works for YOUR family, not what society says you should do or what your friends do. It's so hard, but you can always do it one more day.
K.
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C.W.
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Is she still sleeping in a crib or toddler bed? If so, get her a regular, twin bed. At night, you can put her in it and lay next to her until she falls asleep. I also used to let me kids fall asleep with me and then I would move them.
As to the other people that have responded...I cannot believe a parent would condone allowing their child to scream until they vomit....."throw a towel over it." "Make her clean it up." You all are sick! They are children, and you have to figure out a way to make the situation better.
My daughter would cry until she vomited as well. I have never been so horrified. The method of allowing the child to scream themselves to sleep did not work in my case. Both of the methods that I referenced above worked out great with my kids. I can tell you that they are now 8-years-old....they sleep in their own beds and sleep all night.
Don't give up...you will find something that works for you and your child....and you won't have to let her vomit on herself to make it happen!
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M.L.
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My daughter is going throught the same thing. She finally told her you can sleep in here but too keep her to used to their bed she moved a small bed into their room and she has to sleep on that.
Remember they have wild imaginations and no telling what they dream of. I would make sure she eats and drinks nothing at least a few hours prior to bedtime.
Make sure you have a nite light, maybe some white noise, (fan, radio, ect.)and remember this to shall pass. They go through stages soon you wont be able to get them awake when their in hogh school. LOL it's a vicious circle.
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L._.
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Some of you are absolutely CLUELESS if you think that this behavior is going to stop one second sooner than she grows out of it (ON HER OWN). Leave her in her room and just let her puke?! Well it still has to be cleaned up and not the next morning!
This child is not trying to rule the roost. I wish I had an answer. We went through this with our first child. She also threw up in the night. It wasn't because we were trying to force her back into her room. And it wasn't because she didn't want to go to bed either. She simply fell asleep when she was tired and then woke up vomiting and crying. Well some nights she cried only. This went on until she was almost 3 and then it simply stopped. She had other ways to express frustration, but she slept through the night after that.
Hey, you can try anything. You can ask her provider to try and tire her out more during the day. There is a slight chance she isn't getting enough stimulation to be tired. Then again, maybe she has too much stimulation in her life. Who the heck really knows? But she might have a stomach condition. She might be a nervous child. My daughter was always crabbier in general than other children and very moody. Nothings changed all that much! She's 23 years old and still moody! She had her gall bladder out about a year ago and she has acid reflux disease. I think some people just carry the weight of the world in their stomach.
Listen, this child feels bad about sleeping. She may be plagued with bad dreams or maybe her stomach feels bad to her or maybe she just gets scared and wants you. Maybe her tonsils are too big and keep her from getting a pure clean airway at night. You can shine a flashlight in there to see that. Could she be just a little spoiled?? I don't think that bed time is the time this will come out in this way!
If this kid was just a spoiled brat she wouldn't want to be with mom and dad. She'd be sneaking up and tearing up the house. Now that's when you know the kid has no discipline what-so-ever. I hear all sorts of stories about kids that get up and dump the flour, raid the fridge and make big gross messes dumping things out of the ketchup and syrup jars etc..
She needs something and you may never figure out just what. I'm sure you are tired. I remember!
I too don't get a lot of sleep sometimes. I have to get up with kids in the night that need bottles, let parents pick up their kids at all hours and my early daycare kids start coming in as early as 5:30 am. I learned years and years ago that being frustrated at the lack of sleep only made me feel worse. Do try and get all the sleep you can. Do turn off the tv earlier in the evening when you can. But being upset because you are a little more tired on some days is just adding to the stress in that household. It's all in the attitude. I guarantee you that if I get 3 hours of sleep a couple nights in a row I will still find a way to function without ripping everyone's head off :) It's a challenge I face with a positive attitude because the alternative is negative and destructive.
My best advice to you is pray when she's up. Pray for her when you put her down. Put her on prayer chains and keep looking for solutions because with God's help you might find it.
Suzi
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D.H.
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I agree with the ladies who responded to you about being consistant. That is the key. Nanny 911 would agree. If she throws up you can either let it wait until morning or clean it up right away, but have her help you clean it up no matter what. She now knows that if she cries hard enough and throws up that she'll get what she wants. You now have to teach her differently. If you don't teach her that it isn't going to work, this will go on until she much older. My nephew was like that. It took him going to a therapist at the age of 9 to stop the crying and vomiting and for his parents to finally be consistant. He is an only child, if you know what I mean. Good Luck and God Bless.
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D.L.
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We had the same problem at that age with our son. I took him to the store and let him pick out a cool sleeping bag and new pillow. It was on the floor beside our bed and he started coming into our room and sleeping there. I eventually moved it to his floor and then to his bed. It took about six months but it worked peacefully.
Good luck,
D.
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S.B.
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The problem is that the crying and vomiting and then getting to sleep with mommy is now a part of her routine. I highly recommend the Baby Whisperer's books, and she has a helpful website, www.babywhisperer.com with a message board. Routine is key, and it will probably be pretty tough, but it will be worth it.
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E.L.
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I feel your pain. My 2 year old has done the same thing. I just got so tired and was completely exhausted every day that I got fed up with it.
You're gonna have to be strong. Let her cry herself to sleep. Close her door (leave a night light on) and let her cry it out. She will go to sleep eventually.
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A.M.
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I completely agree with the MAJORITY of the responces. let her cry it out. I am doing the same thing with my 3 year-old princess and it is anything but fun!! It must be nice being able to live on 2-3 hours of sleep a night, but that is NOT for me. I am a single mother who works full time. I also know both my daughter and I need all of our sleep to be in our best conditions the next day. BELEIVE ME, everyone knows when either my daughter or myself did not get enough sleep the night before.
It is exhausting when your watching the clock and it's 11 pm, you two have been battling for about 2 hours, it starts to get quieter and quieter, then that seemingly 6th wind comes in and it starts all over!
I too give in too easily. This weekend we are tackling this problem, like it or not.
God bless and good luck
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Yes, she knows. You have taught her that she can always sleep with you like she wants, but only if she gets very upset and throws up. Your pattern of giving in eventually has simply led her to believe that she can get what she wants when you say no by screaming and having a tantrum. The one thing you have yet to try is consistency and it is the only thing that works. You need to be firm and remain firm. It may end with you having to pat her to sleep for a few nights as you gradually remove yourself from her bedtime routine. And there will be crying and tantrums, you have to remain firm and now that she thinks she just has to scream harder to win, the tantrums will be long. You already know what to do, you just have to do it! A 2 year old will not be hurt by having to cry because she didn't get her way, even throwing up isn't going to hurt her. You can do it! A good nights sleep will get there! You may also want to be careful about how much attention you give her during the tantrums, she wants you attention and i crying is the way to get it.... All easier said than done, I know, so good luck. Just remember it is for her own good aswell. She needs like 14 hours of sleep/day stlll, that is the time when growth hormone is released abd kids do the most growing.
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I,ve read all the responses posted so far. I'm a Mother of 3 grown children and 5 grandkids. One of my kids had the same problems. We tried everyhing from trying the be firm to giving in. Nothing was working so we went to a Child Physicolgist at KU Med Center. I thought he was crazy when I heard what he had to say. We were told the clear his room of any thing that might hurt him. At bed time we were to make sure he had a snack-dry diaper and a drink. Start with the door open and light on. Give hug & kisses and say see you in the morning & if you don't stay in here and go to sleep we will close the door. With in 10 mins he was screaming and coming out of his room. When that happened we were to put him back in his room and close the door. We were not to talk to him and after closing the door we were not to open it again until morning. We had a hot line we were to call before doing anything. He to would throw up from crying so hard. We spend 3 or 4 nights of not sleeping and called the hot line once. Each night the crying time got shorter & with in a week no crying and coming out of his room. They also told us when he would throw up-not to clean it up until morning and he was to help clean it up. We were sure this procedure would scar him for life and it was a tough week. We were wromg. He is now a happy well adjusted 32 yr old- married with 2 wonderful boys. I think it would have been easier if we would have had a web cam in his room to make sure he was really ok. Back then they didn't have them. Good luck with what every you try.
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well i am not sure what to tell u ,but u mite keep a trash can by her bed for when she gets sick , and stay with her in there till she goes to sleep . i know it will be hard but she needs to learn to sleep in her own bed . the longer u take to get into the habit of sleeping in her own bed the harder it will be for u. try no naps during the day and see if that helps her go to sleep at night . warm mild at night also i hope this helps( E. )
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The trick is not to give in. Kids are always going to try and push you to see where their boundries really are. Remember at two she is relying heavily on actions to tell her what is acceptable. So if you say one thing and do another-- guess what will win?! She crys and throws up because you encourage it. You have some great techniques left here by other parents, I say try one and stick with it. Buy puppy pads for your floors and let her try her worst. After a few days she will catch on that you are not going to give in anymore.
It is funny that you comment that you have read what to do with infants, because you didn't do any of that then now you have a toddler that acts this way, and if you don't do this now, you will have a gradeschooler sleeping in bed with you!
No matter what age the child the biggest part is consistancy, everytime you give in you undo everything!
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B.B.
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You have received lots of great advice. My best advice is to call Nancy Birkenmeier at the St. Luke's sleep center. (Someone else also recommended her.) I, too, met with her for 2 hours, without my 3 year old (this was 7 years ago) and she made a customized plan for us to follow. She's a great listener and her plan worked with a little tweaking over the next few days. I did have to call her back a time or two (subsequent phone calls up to a certain number are included in the price of your co-pay). She was like my BEST FRIEND when my daughter finally slept all night without all of the drama. I was SO grateful!! I, too, think that my co-pay was very worth it, and I recommend her highly!!! Ask them first if they take your insurance. I've been there, too, and this too shall pass.
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T.M.
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She definitely knows what gets her into your bed. Every night that you give in to her confirms that - and she gets what she wants. I know that it is difficult but you have to be STRONG!!! Start a bedtime routine w/ bath, book, etc... same thing every night and put her in her bed. If she continues to come out of the room you just continue to put her in her bed without engaging her in any conversation. If you have ever watched "Super Nanny" - she does this often and it really works - plus I have used on my son when needed (he's 5 now) and it does work. The key is consistency and do not give in - it will get better and you will all be getting more sleep. The moment that you give in and let her into your bed - you will have to start all over. Be strong and good luck! You will be grateful when she's sleeping on her own and you are too! :)
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K.W.
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The Supernanny technique works great: put your daughter to bed and sit on her bedroom floor. Don't look at her and don't talk to her, just sit there. She will cry like crazy, but will eventually go to sleep. The next night, it won't take quite as long. Eventually, she will go right to sleep when you put her down. I couldn't believe this would work, but we tried it after our vacation, when our son became used to sleeping in the bed with us. It only took about three nights before he was going to bed instantly.
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A.S.
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Hi C.,
Have you read the book "Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child"? It is by Marc Weissbluth and has a lot of great info in it. Other than that I would just say try to be firm and not give in! We use a lullaby cd and I put a soft blanket on the bottom of the crib. You might be able to use a security blanket that might help her to be able to fall back asleep on her own.
Good luck
A.
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K.M.
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JUST keep putting her back in her bed, even if she throws up. IF you do not, you will have a bed partner way past 5 or 6 years of age, IT is a stage she is going thru. YOU have to be consistant. not let her one night, then the next not let her. JUST BE FIRM, tell her it is her bed, and yours bed is yours.
She will get the idea.
SOUNDS like NANNY 911, well, it is the way it should be.
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K.B.
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Hi, C.. As crazy as it may seem, a 2 year old already knows how to manipulate her parents. And I know firsthand, that is true. My 8 year old son still has a difficult time sleeping in his own room and going to sleep on his own without me sitting right there or the TV putting him to sleep. It started for us much younger than 2, since I was a big softie. I regret it every night, and so does my husband. As difficult as it is, and it will be, I recommend starting a very firm routine with your daughter. Take her to her room, read her a set amount of books, and tell her she will be sleeping in her bed, whether she cries and throws a fit or not. Put some music on for her, if you think that might soothe her, but read her the books, give her some snuggles, and leave the room. If she is in a crib, leave the door open, but if she is in a toddler bed, I recommend closing the door. I have used this method on my second child- a girl, and it has been so nice to have one child that actually sleeps at night! She has tried to come in our room in the middle of the night, but we just take her back. We know what happens if we are not strict about it. I hope this might help you. Obviously, if your child gets physically sick ,you will need to go and take care of it, but be very matter of fact when you start this routine, or she will see right through you. Make sure, even if you are cleaning up her vomit, you stay calm and NEVER LET HER SEE YOU STRESS! That is such an important thing to remember for any situation. Kids read their parents reactions and play off them all the time. Good Luck and God Bless!
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K.B.
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I hesitate to say Good Morning, cause your probably exhausted. Our now 9 y/o gr daughter used to cry until she made herself sick also. When she was a baby they lived with use for quite a while so I got to see first hand what she did. She finally stopped around around 2.5 y/o but would start to cry and I would get a cool cloth and place it on her neck and tell he she could not get sick to get her way.
She still has an attitude, comes with the age I think. She thinks she is a teenager already. lol or tries to act like one.
We always had a bedtime routine, and would start about an hour before saying it was almost bed time. Small pre-bed time snack fruit cup or something light, bath, Pj's, book. Then to bed for prayers and hugs & kisses.
When and If they started to get up for no apparent reason we took them back to bed kissed them again and left with sweet dreams. Didn't matter if we did it 3-4 times it was the same.
If they came to our bed Hubby would get up and carry them back to theirs, and tell them this was their big boy bed and he needed to sleep there not with momma and daddy.
Right now C. your little one has you wrapped around her little pinkie, she knows even at this age if she cries long enough Mom will give in to her demands. Take her back to bed sit there with her for a few minutes then kiss her say good night and leave. Do it again and again, don't give in. Keep a small basin (like those you get from hospital) handy if she starts to gag herself, and cool cloth. Play a CD of soft music in her room. If you keep giving in C. she will continue on as she is now.
Best of everything to you and yours
Hope you get better ideas and information you need.
K. Nana of 5