Help My Just 4 Yr Old Negative Attitude and Negative Attention Seeking.

Updated on December 30, 2009
M.S. asks from Roanoke, TX
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HI,
My son just turned four. However this kind of behavior has been around since he was one. It just seems to be getting worse.He is a happy little boy at home. He tries to tease and disturb what my daughter and I are doing at times but I give him a choice stop teasing or go to your room and it stops or he has an time out in his room. He is unhappy and doesn't want to participate with anything or anyone unless its his idea and he is in charge outside of the house,. He wants to be the center of attention and if he can't do this he will misbehave to get it.

Looking back he was 12 months old and I took him home. My family would ask him to say his abc's and he say his numbers well this kind of thing continued at Kindermusik all the other kids would be dancing and playing instruments and he would be flopping on the floor like a fish trying to knock anyone down who came close enough. Little gym all this kids would be doing one thing and her would do another.... I know this is not a big deal but its just examples... so there was nothing that I tried with him that he enjoyed... socertotts gym etc. ......I just thought he would grow out of it. He has always gotten heaps of attention perhaps to much

He also seems uncomfortable around other kids. He went to a lot of play groups and a small group of kids playing at someone's house he is great but the park with a whole bunch of kids running around sometimes he just goes into a tunnel and stays.

This is the second school we have tried. It is the most fun school with the least amount of rules I could find.

Well now he has started this school he doesn't want to go now. He loved it for the first 2 weeks but since then..sometimes I have to pick him up to get him in the classroom and the teacher has to hold him so that he doesn't leave. He mopes around the room cranky and frustrated and then sits in a corner for 15 - 20 min and then when he comes out he doesn't participate he tries to mess up the work of the other kids or break the class rules, which aren't many its a Montessori school so basically he's free to choose whatever activity and for how long, he's just not allowed to yell, disturb the other kids or leave. He behaves in a manner he would never at home.

I try to use Love and logicit works at home. I give him a heap of choices and really pick my battles. But I can't find anything that will affect his behavior outside of the house with others. When he misbehaves at school I tried asking him if he wanted to do chores or pay me in toys to help mom for taking time out of her day money etc to come and deal with this. He will do chores all day but will behave the same tomorrow. Sometimes he gives me toys to take away because of his behavior but it doesn't matter, even if they are his favorite toys. Its like he doesn't care enough about anything to really get upset if its taken away. I feel like there is nothing I can do to help him behave when I am not around.

But I suppose this isn't whats so upsetting for me... its just that he doesn't seem happy. I signed him up for soccer. I wanted to give him more socialization because at his previous school they in only had small classes and I thought he really needed it. Well he loved the first game ran full speed laughed giggled had a blast and then at practice ( his coach is really really sweet) he started not wanting to do anything. He said that he was upset that the other boys were better than him ( there are a handful of boys who have been playing constantly for a year). And now 5 weeks into it he wont go out onto he field to play. Its like if he's not the best at it he would rather be the worse and get negative attention then try. He just seems sad and confused and I don't know how to help. I try being really enthusiastic and complimenting him on any little thing he does in soccer but that is met with negativity. I try being more weighted... I really wished you would give it a try... nothing.

I sit and watch all the little teams and some of the little ones are confused kick to wrong way or just run around the field paying no attention but they seem to be having fun... my son just looks tortured. Teasing his teammates while on the side line refusing to listen to the coach no matter how much the coach tries. I can't help but wonder though if its just for attention but how do you stop that. He gets sooooo much attention at home always has. Perhaps a little to much...his needs always came first I never let him cry I was always there, safety net... for Love and Logic moms a helicopter mom. Well when my daughter arrived I had to let a bit of that go but I do think that I overindulged him when he was younger..

But how do you take this back.. you should also know that he is a lot like my husband in the sense that my husband loves nothing better then to tease but he is not negative or anti social quite the opposite.

I used to just think oh well.. he just doesn't like Kindermuisk or little gym then I subbed in his former preschool and saw what all these little kiddoes were doing. Listening well, eager to please, happy not getting attention immediately, just happy in their own skin.

Wow this is really long sorry, one last thing. Intellectually he is a smart little boy. He can read CVC words knows some of his sight words knows his numbers and can do basic addition. He loves books and reading. He is just really stubborn and determined and has no problem using his brains for the wrong things.

Anyway, have tried all the tips in Love and Logic, Sibling rivalry, Ask Dr sears... but perhaps I am just to close to the situation and can't see the forest for the trees. Any advice would be appreciated from a very worn out mom.

Thanks

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B.F.

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I have to answer just because I see a really dedicated mom trying to do her best and I am sure you are worn out. Don't worry about taking parenting mistakes back. We have all made them and much worse than yours. You are in the midst of one of the hardest times of your life and you need to cut yourself some slack. When we are young, we think kids are a blank slate and everything we do forms their personality but rest assured they come already wired! Let the past go and focus on the day. He has this personality and your best shot is going to be to mold it consistantly. Two years of molding is just a drop in the bucket, I am afraid to say. Don't compare him to others and don't compare you as a parent to others. Keep your eyes on the end prize of growing a great adult, you have 14 more years to be his example and to be consistant. Remember to encourage the good behavior. He sounds like he has a good brain that recognizes when he "isn't the best" and doesn't have the emotional maturity to handle his knowledge. Try giving him something personal to excell in. An individual sport like Tae Kwon Do would give him a physical outlet and a chance to compete against himself. Talk to the instructor about making it a confidence builder not a competition. Talk to him about his strengths and reward the smallest show of self-control and tell his teacher to do the same, as it is her biggest job also to make this little boy a shine in his own eyes around others. Some may suggest a bit of ADD but I wouldn't address that till later. It is just a hard time in his life and you are just the hero he needs to help him through it!
May God Bless You as you pray for His strength and wisdom.
B.

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T.C.

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First I agree with the first writer you are a wonderful mother. And I mean wonderful. My first bit of advice would be to have this long heart to heart with your spouse. Read your letter to him and express your feelings. You mentioned he likes to tease a lot and throughout your letter you mentioned that your son immulates that same behavior quite often. It seems that you have a really smart little man. Remember they repeat a lot of our behavior. How many times have you heard them repeat something that you said :) I know I have. I don't claim to have the answers but I believe that talk would help and with changes you may see more positives.

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L.P.

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OK what I see here is a small boy who not only has had to learn to share someone he had all to himself for 2 years but then got shuffled off somewhere to get him out of the way. I know this is not the case just putting myself in his shoes. Do not know if he attend daycare before your daughter arrived but in his eyes you have a new kid now and he is in the way and that will also explain why he does not want to do something unless he is the best. He is trying to earn you back. I am not saying you neglect him in anyway but to him it will feel that way. I just went through this with my 4 year old when my 2 year old grand daughter came for an extended visit and he got mean and ugly and very selfish he even wanted to quit going to school. He was affraid I was replacing him with her. I think I read you run up there when he has bad behavior? I think I would check with the school and see if there is an alternative to you coming up maybe a time out spot or something if he sees you are not going to jump and run when he acts up then it may stop this, maybe they could call when he is doing good in the class and doing his work and you could go up and tell him you heard he was doing a great job and wanted to see for yourself just how great it was and on the days he acts out when you pick him up poin tout to him that you were looking forward to coming to the school to see his great work again what happened and give him the chance to tell the story of why he did not behave then discuss options with him but keep it at just 2 no more no less the more choices you give them the more confussed and frustrated they will become and the behavior follows with that. At home do not give options, he is a very smart boy and will understand with a one time explanination, if you mess up something someone else is doing you will go to your room for 15 minutes and sit on your bed no toys nothing and everytime you play I will add a minute to your time. The very next time he acts out send him straight to his room no chances, when his time is up go to him hold him and explain the rule again making sure he understood why you sent him there and always end a punishment with a hug and a kiss and I Love YOU. I use a time out chair so he can see and hear what he is missing. If he is acting out for attention and you take the attention away and only give it for the good he will start having more good moments then bad. Walk away if he throws a fit and tell him that you will be back when he is done. I also have taught mine that when he gets real frustrated and feels like destroying something he runs to me and we hug real tight and I have a song I sing to him till he calms down, the teacher at his school has learned this also and holds him till he gets past it. He needs to know it is alright to get angry and upset but needs to use words to express this and never contridict his words when he does express himself. Hope some of this helps but there is no one good answer you just have to find your way and stick to it. You are a good mom and have done nothing more then love your child and that is never a bad thing.

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K.D.

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I had issues with negative attitude and negative attention when my oldest was 3-4 years old. I read, how to behave so your child will too. Sorry I don't remember the authur. It was a great read. All I had to learn to fall thru with consiquences. I would always warn but not fall thru with the punishment. Changed that and things will improve. Good luck, I know how hard it can be with a smart strong willed little boy.

P.W.

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M.,
You sound like an excellent Mom to me and I urge you to stop blaming yourself. I don't think this behavior has anything to do with what you have done as a Mom.

There sounds like there is more going on to me. Depression and anxiety disorders can occur from birth. There are hints of Asbergers Syndrome in your story too. Unless your son is already on a medication that could be causing this temperament I would have him evaluated by a child psychiatrist. I don't have a recommendation and you don't have to rush into meds, but if this is a disorder you could make a huge difference for your child. He could be happy!

I know "disorder" sounds scary, but in your heart it sounds like you know something is off. Why not check it out? Ask the Mama's for a good recommendation or call Scottish Rite Hospital and see what they say. The earlier you help your boy the sooner he can get on with a happy childhood. Aka......a happy ending.

My Best,
P.

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