Would You Be Bothered If This Happened?

Another website carrying this "story" also has a story "Confirmed, the world will end October 21, 2012"

So I guess it's a moot point if the world ends, huh?

Laughing...

It's a logo. I don't know anyone who would just stand by and watch the flag change, and that has nothing to do with what political party you support.

Please show me the link to the FLAG that is being sold because everywhere I looked I saw a PRINT. Which is very different. And why aren't you upset about the heart shaped print? Does that look flag like enough for you?

I think that we are so far in the weeds in this country that it's not even funny and not because of the person in office. The political infighting is just ridiculous.

You are misinformed! Not sure why you are making a big deal about this without the facts! It's a logo of the US to indicate we are not blue states and red states, but one country. There aren't 7 stripes, for example. Fox "News" has had to retract a percentage of its reports, has had to apologize outright for a few incorrect reports, and has had numerous independent fact-checking organizations call them misleading and outright liars. You should get your news from independent and bipartisan (or non-partisan) sources!

People who make claims like this wind up inadvertently looking a little silly. Even people on Mamapedia who quote lots of websites and post links don't always check the veracity of those sites. They spread half-truths and misperceptions that only muddy the debate, get some people outraged and other people laughing, and distract from the real issues. We're all busy and we don't always take the time to verify things, and it's awfully easy to find anything on the internet and use it to bolster our positions.

No one's changing the flag, no one's every suggested it, and it's totally a non-issue.

The flag has been used in fashion for 50 years, sometimes tastefully and sometimes not. It's been used in art, in logos, in political signage, in jewelry, and much more. Suddenly now you're making it an issue? What's really got you going on this?

Cheryl,
No one's trying to change the flag. This is just an image, a logo. ALL politicians incorporate American images into their campaigns, merchandise and literature.
These kinds of "news" stories are meaningless, and they distract from REAL issues, IMO :(

See the flag here?
http://ronwade.freeservers.com/BushWList.html

How about here?
http://www.loriferber.com/presidential-memorabilia/george...

Here?
http://www.loriferber.com/presidential-memorabilia/george...
(20 stars and 7 stripes)

And this? http://www.loriferber.com/wlliam-mckinley-us-flag-campaig...

This? http://historicalamericana.com/images/uploaded/7192-20100...

Or this one? http://historicalamericana.com/images/uploaded/9001A-2011...

Or this? http://historicalamericana.com/images/uploaded/9367A-2012...

It's been VERY common to use altered images of the US Flag in campaign materials for a LONG time. Did you just notice now?
Or do you see some difference I'm missing?

ETA: It's tragic that anyone, regardless of political affiliation would allow internet hoaxes to influence them and I see at least one in this thread of comments. We are ALL prone to confirmation bias, but aren't we smarter than that? Check Snopes or http://www.politifact.com/

LOL LOL LOL!!! It's all over FOX "news"--how could we miss it?

Um...it's a LOGO for his campaign...he's not "redesigning the flag"!

I think all the outcry is an attempt to take the focus of of Mitt being, well....Mitt.

I would strongly advise anyone not to buy O. if it bothers them. :D

Did you know that Lincoln's campaign used a banner showing a modified flag? Here's a picture:
http://clickamericana.com/eras/1860s/abraham-lincolns-cam...
It even has Abe's PICTURE on it!
Does that bother anyone?

ETA: A flag is a banner. Lincoln's was a banner as well. Does that help?

"Mz Kitty - Obama's campaign has redesigned the flag and is selling it for $35 each.."...... Now it was never about the current administration? Confused...

Nope. There are bigger issues in the world to change.

Seriously? This is news? This is an issue how?

It's a logo, nothing more and nothing less. He is using a logo that looks like a flag. You can call it a flag. He is not calling it an American Flag. How many countries have flags that are similar to each other? Quite a few actually. How many logos do you see that resemble national flags? I've seen many. I have a flag with a Jolly Rogers and one with a Peace sign, do these compete with or replace the American Flag? Are they any less a flag? Really?

Is this really what people have devolved into? Is the Us vs Them gotten this ridiculous?

If this is a question about the real, actual American Flag. President Obama is not a person stupid, disrespectful or ignorant enough to change it to something like his logo. How absurd an assumption. If another state were to be added, then yes, another star should be added and there may be some "re-jiggering" to make them all fit and look aesthetically pleasing. This is perfectly fine. We used to have a circle until they no longer fit that way. The 13 stripes aren't going to change because you can never change the count of the original colonies.

Sorry to get flippant but it floors me that this is what people bicker over.

Are people really that ignorant? The flag did not change and there is no plan to change the flag. There are many variations on the flag used for various purposes and have been for a while. Desperate Romney supporters just trying to start stuff!

I would be bothered if the U.S. flag changed unless it was to add more states like the addition of Alaska (#49) and Hawaii (#50). The flag(promotional banner) you reference is not a real US flag, it is an advertising slogan for the Obama campaign or the Democratic campaign

No, I wouldn't be bothered. The flag has changed several times since its inception.

That's quite foolhardy, isn't it?

I guess the left has their own insert foot moment now. I don't care if it's a painting, a logo, whatever. It's silly.

Glad to be riding in the middle currently.

Now, if they ACTUALLY tried to change the literal American flag. Yeah, my blood would be boiling.

Thank you, Diane. What else is new with not checking FACTS, and using sound bites and rhetoric in order to stir the pot...

Dawn

If the ACTUAL flag changed (beyond adding stars)? Yep. No question.

This is just political artwork. Just like when W's FACE was plastered all over 'official' type stuff (money, flags, etc.) as part of his campaign. Even if I didn't despise the vast majority of former President's politics... his face aesthetically gives me the willies.

The flag is, and always has been, up for grabs. It's worn as clothing (which I personally hate, esp. when it's the real flag being sat on). Altered into artwork (like the O flag in your link, or as a background, or stripes replaces with vignettes, or stars replaces, or, or, or) . Used as 1001 "pieces" of things (stars & or stripes) in various motifs.

Not if it means we will be adding Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands to the United States as states.

UPDATED
I think the writers take on that picture is far reaching. The stripes are orange not red and not even 13 of them.

Bye the way I do realize they are not the only territories but I was simply stating if they were to become states we would need to change our flag.

Would you be bothered if Mitt Romney killed someone? Not saying he did, but would it bother you?

This is the classic stuff The Daily Show team likes to play with. Ask a question, provide evidence unrelated to the topic but just enough to inspire a knee jerk reaction....

I'm pretty sure at least 47% of Americans will own one ;)

Hey Cheryl O, I just PMd you...

I don't really care since it is just his campaign logo and it would NEVER happen to our flag.

There was a time back in the 60's when it was extremely offensive that protesters wore the American flag as shirts, bikinis etc. Now most people wear them because they love our country.

Even if it is a print, I think it is still disrespectful. I love our American Flag.
Don't mess with it.

No problem here. If they changed the official flag of The United States of America and flew it at the White House, yes I'd have a problem but it's just a campaign flag. Who cares.

Obama should be working on job creation,etc, etc, etc...

Do you know how hard it is for me to find something made anywhere but China?

My political friend said that Obama had the cross covered when he went to speak at a college. Now, he is redesigning a flag????

Yes, It would bother me !

Hi, Cheryl:
The American Flag is a symbol of our Patriotism. When the British tried to bomb Fort McHenry in Maryland to take back control of the United States, they were unsuccessful. The American flag was seen as a symbol of freedom from tyranny. The war of 1812, was the second attempt by Britain to take control of our country. The American flag symbolizes our freedom/liberty or Republic of the people, by the people and for the people.

It is a symbol of the American people. Obama's flag is a symbol for OBAMA not the American people. If the people allow his flag to fly, the American people will be under a Socialist government.
God Bless America.

D.

At first I was all ready to get fully riled up about the gall anyone would have to change our flag (aside from rearranging stars or something to make room for a new state like Puerto Rico). The article says it's a painting for sale that is (obviously) a campaign ad more or less.

To answer your question, though, if they DID try to alter it in any way that did more than just add stars for states, I would be VERY bothered. As it is, I'm with the author that it's pretty darn arrogant, and it irritates me, but, I'm not going to vote for him, so that's all I can do about it.

If this happens and he gets presidency again do you know how many people are going to freak. Its just like him. Turning our world into a 3rd world country and then expecting us to accept that he can just change one of the most important things in our culture. Tack on one more reason I think that idiot should be out!

Grrr that P##### me off

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Darn it Cheryl I got soooo mad real quick for no reason. (deep breath) ok now that I know what it is Im cool.

If he wanted to add some stars cool but him doing that we already know my head would fly off the handle through the roof and land at his feet. (ewwy)

Yes it would bother me.

I saw a clip not too long ago of MO and BO waiting on the flag for a presentation and MO leans toward BO and says "all this for a damn flag". Classy First lady huh!

Does that bother me, no, it is more of an eye roll. I mean come on, replacing the fifty states with your campaign logo?

Now officially changing the flag, yeah, that would set me off.

Well heck yes I would be.

If it were to change to that...I don't like it.

If it were to as Kimberly said below add PR and VI as states and just add stars for them...of course not.

But to change the Flag itself...I'd be freaking pissed.

Why does this surprise you? Not to be blunt, but that man is an ignorant fool and wants nothing more than to stand in line with the radicals and burn our flag - isn't he already doing that by tearing apart our country and the people within?

He literally makes me sick.

But yes, if the flag changed aside from adding more stars (if that were to ever happn), I'd be hot. It has changed so many times over history, but only adding stars to represent the states as they gained their stateship. Obama wants to destroy all that America is...so I am not the least bit surprised he (or anyone in his campaign) was foolish enough to think that was a good idea.

No. It has undergone a lot of changes over time. In fact the current design was created by Robert Heft when he was a teenager as a school project. Imagine claiming that credit! I think it would be interesting to see what people could come up with nowadays.

Yes. It would bother me very much.

I'm too damn busy to be bothered. Seriously, people are starving, ya know!!

Yes, I would be bothered. I didn't see the "flag" you are referring to but if Obama has authorized the creation of a flag that depicts his likeness, I am very disappointed in him!

This isn't an attempt to change our flag.
It would not bother me if it changed.
Heck, I think "America the Beautiful" would make a better anthem than "The Star Spangled Banner".
Our current anthem is a nice poem set to the tune of a drinking song "To Anacreon in Heaven" and it's a difficult tune for most people to sing well.

I think it's weird to use a flag that way - almost in a commercial sense - but on the other hand there is the First Amendment.

I think it just reflects poorly on the campaign. Otherwise I don't worry about it.

Cheryl, do you recall the video of Mitchell's comment regarding our flag??? I am not a bit surprised by this. :(

OMG!!

YES!!!! So many men and women died for our country and to change the flag would be horribly disrespectful to them and their families. I love the American Flag and I hope it never changes.

Don't get your patriotic panties in a ruffle. It's a PAINTING (art, you know) they are selling prints of, no one is even suggesting our flag be changed.

https://store.barackobama.com/obama-2012-store-collection...

Even that crazy, socialist, Muslim wouldn't consider changing our flag until he gets re-elected. Then he's gonna turn our country into a commie, welfare state where all the rich people have to give their money away to the lazy 47% of us freeloading off the government.

I know lets all debate this flag situation. I'm sure that will help us figure out how to pull our beloved country out of this frightening tailspin it's in.

Yes.

All things change but the question is how they change - is for the better or worse.

I read both the link and The Stir and so I can easily say well this is just something selling and doesn't mean the flag will be changed. But if it is changed like this with his champaign logo well you can't get much more wrong than that. As for the statement on The Stir, that this flag represents the united states and not the blue states and red states. How ridiculous. The current flag completely stands for the united states, each star is a light, a state in the union, each stripe of red the blood that was shed to gain independence. The red state, blue state is a relatively new contemporary concept of the media made to insite people's competive nature and base natures. So to act like this new idea of the flag unites the uniion is just more side stepping and hoping no one notices.

I guess it might matter who was changing it and how and why.

I don't see where that's happening, though, so that's a non-issue. Even if it is a flag, it's not THE flag. Everything is being made into a flag these days. So what if they're using that as the latest?