Unexplained Seizure

Updated on February 03, 2008
K.O. asks from Anaheim, CA
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When my daughter was 4, we were up in the mountains (altitude 10,000) and she had a grand mal seizure (actually a couple in a row that morning) She did not have a fever, but was dehydrated. I thought she was leaving us. She had a seizure in the ambulance, and one in the emergency room. She had an EEG, Spinal Tap and a few other tests that day. Since that she's had a cat scan, a 20 minute sleep study and a 24 hour sleep study. They all showed nothing except the 24 hour one came back abnormal. It has now been over 2 years with no other occurances and both CHOC, and my second opinion at UCLA would call her seizure free, and leave it at that. I can't let it go, I don't know why it happened, does anyone have any ideas? How could someone be that close to death from altitide and dehydration? I still havn't ruled out the fact she took an over the counter product for a slight cold that day. HELP.....

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My oldest son is now 7 when he was less then a year old he started to have these unexplained seizures we went through every test possible in the hospitals, no explanation. His pediatrician finally told me that it is very common for this to happen to children under 5 and they usually will grow out of it. I never felt satisfied with that answer and kept track of when it happened what he was exposed to etc. Still no explanation by the time he was about 5 he no longer had this problem. It can be almost anything to trigger this if it doesn't show up as a neurological problem even just something inhaled that your child could be allergic to. Try to keep a log of when you see this happen so you can let you doc know.

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Dear K.,

First I"m gona apologize for the VERY long email that I hope you bare with me and read it all.
Ugh. I wish I could leave this stuff alone but I can't. So this WILL be long.
The fact that the doctors and some top notch places couldn't figure out how to solve the problem doesn't surprise me. They treat symptoms, not causes. And the fact that they will allow you to walk away beleiving that all is ok because it hasn't happened for 2 yrs? Is like saying you'll never be in another car accident because you just had one last week. Think about this logic! God gave us woman an amazing gift of intuition and instinct. And yours is working as it should be. Of COURSE you shouldn't leave it alone! Whatever it was that 'caused' your daughter to have the seizures that day - could come back later in a different form, a different way. Her body is speaking loudly...it's not 'normal' to go through what she went through. So yes, the journey should continue to find the source and causation.
The altitude and dehydration may have just been the straw...it's very likely it would've happened regardless where you were. And yes the OTC medication could have had an adverse reaction in conjunction with the environment of that day.
Doctors deal with drugs and surgery. If they can't throw those 2 things at it? They're done. They are looking for something that could be completely out of their field of expertise. Clearly.
If she's been vaccinated since birth...it's possible there was a side affect that took place....or it could be something as simple as vital missing minerals her body can't absorb. Did you ever see the movie 'Lorenzo's Oil'? A true story of a child who went into a coma for supposedly no good reason. I can't remember all details now...but the doctors basically wrote him off....but it was the PARENTS who started to study and research to discover that it was some 'ingredient' in his body that was missing that caused all of his problems. Rent the movie...it'll be inspirational. Point is they didn't give up cuz they KNEW there had to be more then what the Doctors were offering in explanation.
Ok, tangent here...back on track. HA.
My suggestion first is that you check out the website www.909shot.com. it's the National Vaccine and information center. Look on the left side, it'll give you a list of diseases and vaccines and the side affects linked to each one.
Make notes if anything hits you or seems suspicious. If she hasn't been vaccinated, good, she's that much further ahead of the game.
My next suggestion is you go see an herbalist. My own experiences aside, and the hundreds upon hundreds of stories I could tell you from my 26 yrs in search of anything other then the doctor stuff that didn't work for me. I can tell you I'm here because of my Chiropractor and herbalist. I spent most of my childhood with nothing but problems, then 2 car accidents one at 16 one at 17 (neither my fault). Then injury that showed at 21 from them. Then I spent most of my 20's sick. Sicker then a dog. Sick from prescribed drugs, a tentanous shot, eventually pneumonia where I ended up at 98lbs. Then I got rear ended - again and yet again 7 wks later. I spent about the next 8 yrs bedridden. I had started already in my 20's searching for answers with findings linking to my own immunizations and physical problems to large growth spurts that a Chiropractor could've helped with. Anyway, the 'diagnosis' was do a hysterectomy because of the damage and pain - I would never have children. I wasn't even married yet but this is what they hand me. I was deaf in one ear, migraines, a laundry list of 'symptoms' to long to name, and I would need some form of walking aid for the rest of my life. Not what you want to hear at 30.
I vowed to never take another antibiotic or prescribed drug again. Not even pain killers...I needed them so bad but was afraid of getting hooked. So I did aspirin...and although I suffered with some damage to the stomach lining...I recovered. I trusted from that point on my Chiropractor who said keep all of your parts - we'll put you back together.
Ok, so to shorten a long story - I'm now 47, been married 14 yrs, have one son who is 7 and a daughter who just turned 16 months. I haven't had a migraine in 14 yrs, all other symptoms non existent, I can hear just fine, and there are no walking aids in this house.
I never even so much as had a miscarriage. Birthed both of my babies vaginally and my daughter completely without drugs. The epidermal I ended up with after 59 hrs of labor with my son - stayed with both of us for 2 yrs. But it was either that or C section.
I have no health issues. None, regardless of my age now. Since when in our society to you hear of people getting 'better' instead of failing health as they get older. I live a very normal life.
My Mom....had her first heart attack at 41. Because she didn't take the recommended drugs at that time....she went another 15 yrs until the next heart attack. Where most of her counterparts typically die in this time frame especially when you're talking the 70's and 80's. I have to say that she was a workaholic. Didn't do much to take care of herself but I did FORCE her to start seeing a Chiro that she did do sparatically starting in the late 80's. Then comes the year 2000. She's in the hospital again, this time with double pneumonia. Before they could do anything, her arteries shut down except one, she had 20% heart muscle left, and she wasn't supposed to make it thru the night. She left the hospital 6 weeks later. With one month left to live. One month turned into 6 months, 6 into a year...and by then the woman the doctors called the walking dead, was taken OFF the heart transplant list because her body at this point was doing BETTER then what she could possibly endure with a transplant. What the doctors did not know because I didn't want her to tell them so they wouldn't discourage her....was that she was going to the Chiropractor regularly, and we started her on the herbalist who dealt with her from the inside out. BUILD her immune system and organs to the best of their function, remove the toxins from the 23 different drugs 3 times a days she now had to take...and if he could get 2 yrs under her belt with herbs/vitamins and minerals...he gave her another 10 -15 yrs to live.
Because she was living with us I had full control...hahaha. I cooked good healthy meals, made sure she took all that she was supposed to take, and I went to her doctor appts as well. I always caught when they gave her stuff that would cause drug interaction or side affects. And as she got better, I made SURE that they took her off of medications she no longer needed. Which the doctors said would never happen.
2004. My Mom is doing so well, living such a 'normal' life, now retired, she decides to move to a retirement community in Hot Springs Village, AR. Close to one of her dear friends and a whole new world for her with people her age and various activities to look forward to. Ok. She moves. Does well. Some of the most top notch doctors there (no more Kaiser from here) re evaluate her and are completely stunned. Her body had GROWN 40% more veins to her heart in order to help her heart sustain!! She 'fessed' up to them the 'alternatives' that she was doing - because they were insistent on what 'else' she was doing since drugs wouldn't do this. When they found out all they had to say was "keep doing it!"...because it was the only explanation to why she was still alive.
My Mom kept it up. Found a wonderful Chiro in AR. Would get checked here in CA from the herbalist when she was in town.
2006. I started to notice she wasn't having me send her refills anymore. By this point you have to understand that it's been a 20 + year battle with someone like my Mom from her generation where Doctors are esteemed just one level above God. I left it alone...she knew by now what worked and she was a big girl. She had to make her own decisions. Sadly, I found out later that she succumbed to the 'elderly peer pressure'. Those in her age group who mocked her and gave her a hard time about the money she was 'wasting' taking 'that stuff'. Even though she had one or two who knew she was doing the right thing.
March of 2007 my Mom passed away. She had no liver left, she was on kidney dialysis for a week prior because she had no more function. Every organ in her body died and discinagrated(sp?). Ironically her heart was the last to go when all else failed. It had taken less then a year for the drugs to poison her body and destroy what the herbs/vitamins and minerals were doing to 'wash out' regularly out of her body the toxins AND all the while building her immune system at the same time. There in lies the difference between drugs and their side affects, and that which is of the earth that is provided to us to use WITH our body to help heal and maintain.

There is my story. Long and (ok really long ;o))short of it. I have over 26 yrs of this - hundreds of stories to tell you, form minor things to major things.
The fact is that you've TRIED the doctor thing!! And you are left with nothing. Try the natural thing you'll be amazed at what he can expose. I have a friend who's Mom died of breast cancer when she was only 25. At 30 she had masses or polyps or whatever in her breasts! Panicked she went to the doc's who could do nothing. There was no cancer (yet), so what should they do. She went to the herbalst. He said in 3 months I want you to go get Xrays. She did. After 3 months of him working with her, they were all gone! Ok, gotta stop with the stories now.
The bottom line is there IS another way. You've got nothing to lose right? He charges $25 (maybe $30 now) for the first visit, plus the cost of whatever it is you need to take. Each visit after that is $10. Trust me it'll be the best investment you ever made.
There are many but the one I go to is in LaVerne. It sounds like you might be close enough to go there. This man has gotten medical 'cast offs'. Patients (even cancer patients) who were told there was no help for them.
Your daughter is only 6. There is ample time and opportunity to nail down what the HECK caused that horrible day 2 years ago.
His name is David Allen. Call the office and make an appt with Michelle at ###-###-####. Tell them T. sent you.
They work out of a LaVerne ofc on Thursdays and Saturdays. They are on Arrow Hwy between San Dimas Canyon Rd and Wheeler on Carion street in the NJ Croce bldg on the south side by the tracks.

I hope to soon be hearing that I can add you to my long list of success stories! The only one's I know about who didn't succeed in solving their issues....are the ones who didn't follow through.
Trust me, I'll be yelling at my Mom in heaven when I get a chance {;o).
WHATEVER you decide to do...follow your motherly instincts and don't let anyone tell you something isn't something when you know better.

God Bless and good luck.

P.S. Before I get alot of pissed off Moms emailing me who think I'm just poo pooing Doctors, I'm not. Doctors and Western Medicine in our society absolutely has it's place. But they are CRISIS care Physicians not Health MAINTENANCE physicians. Generally everyone goes to doctors when something is wrong not when everything is fine. And unfortunately in our society we've become too reliant on drugs and surgeries as the only alternative.
Over 20 yrs ago when I started my journey DETERMINED to find out WHAT was wrong with me....I've been ignored by staff, yelled at by my Doctors, IGNORED by them and finally refused to be seen by them when they couldn't figure it all out! Finally they reached a point and decided that it was ALL in my head and I was better off seeking a psychiatrist's help. Because after all, if they couldn't figure it out that WAS the only answer...right?
Well, I hope today we have less arrogance running a muck in western medicine. Doctors who can recognize their limitations and step aside and even ENCOURAGE you to seek help elsewhere. And I do know that that does exist 20 + yrs later cuz I've had doctors, nurses and the like seek help from the 'other' side of alternative care.
There isn't anything that you can say to me that I haven't heard or been up against. I was considered a 'rogue' patient then because I went against the grain. And Thank God! My Mom wouldn't have gotten another 7 years - long enough to meet both of my babies....friends, family, acquaintances, strangers....wouldn't be better off if I didn't open my big mouth - that yes, continues to get me in trouble and I still continue to not care when someone comes up against me...ahaaha. Why? Because of some level of disrespect on my part? No. Because I'm ABLE to get up every morning, add another year to my life, I'm 47 with 2 healthy babies and a wonderful 'patient' helping supportive husband who watched it all....and gets it...and continues to support me even through the nay sayers. It's ok. Cuz I'll STILL get up tomorrow morning thankful that I'm still here ...and I KNOW why. Because until the Lord is ready to take me home I have control of my health and my choices...and I don't let anyone else tell me otherwise.

I truly wish everyone well....because this IS the passion the Lord has given me....even though it's not always been easy.

Godspeed

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M.C.

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Have you heard of the book Louder than Words by Jenny McCarthy? We'll Jenny thought her son was a healthy normal little boy until one day, like your daughter, had several seizures and come to find out, after all the testing he was battling with autism. Even though your daughter doesn't have autism its a good book to relate to of a parent that had the same occurance(s) and of all things it would of been just something she ate that day. I have heard people having problem with altitude pressure on the brain but ususally from the effects of an ear infection that has swollen and causes pressure on the cebrial nerve, hence causes a seizure. Hope you find out or come to peace with the incident. Your a GREAT mom!!!

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H.F.

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My nephew had several unexplained seizures that occured over a few years. After all the testing the doctors never found anything. The only possibility seemed to be that his seizures were linked to anxiety. But my nephew was 16 when this started happening. He hasn't had a single seizure since just before he met his now wife. She seems to be really really good for him.

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Hi:

You may be on to something re: "she took an over the counter product for a slight cold that day." You might consider talking with a physician certified in naet (allergy elimination). You can visit naet.com to find a physician, learn more about this testing and treatment technique, and, if you want to do more research on the subject, you may also go to narfnet.org (Nambudripad Allergy Research Foundatin).

There are now over 9000 NAET certified practitioners world wide. I go to Dr. David Karaba in Fullerton and absolutely love him. His phone number is ###-###-####. One of the wonderful things about NAET is that for children or the infirm, they can be treated through a surrogate, i.e., you. Here is the description paragraph from one of Dr. Nambudripad's books.

"Say Good-bye to Children’s Allergies
By - Devi S. Nambudripad, M.D., D.C., L.Ac., R.N., Ph.D.
Paperback-1st Edition 2000
350 pages, 8.5’ X 5.5’ X .75’
ISBN: ISBN: 0-###-###-####-8-4
In Say Good-bye to Children’s Allergies, Dr. Devi S. Nambudripad, the developer of NAET®, will help you understand your child’s illness and will assist you in finding the right help to achieve better health for your child. This book will show you how certain commonly used products in your foods and environment can cause health problems in your child; how you can test your child in your privacy of your own home using the Nambudripad’s Testing Techniques described in the book. This book will educate you how your child’s health problems can relate to allergy, a traditionally under-diagnosed or misdiagnosed condition; and, how allergies can manifest into myriad symptoms that might seem unrelated. The author also provides remedies for mild conditions of common childhood ailments arising from allergies and how to find help in assisting your child find the right help for serious problems such as, asthma, hay-fever, common colds, sinus problems, milk allergy, peanut allergy, sugar allergy, hives, gastritis, vomiting, colic for newborns, ear infections, irritable bowel syndrome, colitis, bronchitis, drug reactions, and many other conditions. Dr. Nambudripad explains how allergies are often the underlying causes to pediatric problems and how NAET® testing procedures and NAET® treatments can offer relief from these allergies. The book is supported by NAET® practitioners’ testimonials and patients’ success stories."

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