Religous Ed, Lying

Updated on September 30, 2011
T.M. asks from Saint Johns, MI
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I'm going through a nasty custody case right now of my 8 year old daughter. My ex told me last Easter that my daughter was doing her 1st communion on May 30th. His history is telling me the wrong dates and times so I will dissapoint my daughter and not show up. I always call to confirm with schools, churches and friends and, still to a surprise, I get the RIGHT times and dates. My question is when I called the church and received the correct date I asked for a copy of her registration form. They refused this information to me even though I have joint legal custody. I just went in the church office 2 days ago with the divorce papers and they finally gave me the copy. On the form it has his new wife as being my daughters mother. I am nowhere on this form or other forms that he/she fills out. The other Mom signs her name as the parent/legal gardian also. Is the legal? Does the church condone this? My daughter is FORCED to call this woman MOM regardless of her feelings. I had custody and when we went to court he was the better lier and had more money for attorney fee's. Now he has custody and it is and will be an ongoing fight for my daughters best interest.

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C.B.

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What does the friend of the court have to say?
I can't answer for the church. Different churches have different values. But I would think that her schools, churches, etc should know the score.
I would definitely talk with an attorney about this custody. First you have joint legal, then he has custody. Even if he does, there ought to be some
'guidelines' that need to be followed. And your daughter should be able to talk to the judge and express her feelings. If pops isn't playing fair and getting away with it, it will of course work in your defense to play fair. But I sure would want to give him a taste of his own medicine. He's being spiteful and controlling.

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S.B.

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Oh boy.
Sorry.
My ex and I divorced when our son was a baby. Although I had primary custody, we shared legal custody. We were not allowed to make religious or medical decisions, etc, without the other parent's consent.
When my son started school, although it seems juvenille, we filled out two sets of everything. I filled out my paperwork with contact and emergency information and he filled out his own, but we always listed each other as the immediate first contact. For instance, my neighbor was a teacher at my son's school and she and her husband were emergency contacts because we were friends and in such close proximity. My ex husband lived in a different city. I worked in a different city.
That is not to say that my ex wouldn't have been contacted right away, but I had people who were much closer and could take care of my son until one or both of us arrived. My ex husband was well aware of that.
The difference is that neither my ex husband or I have ever remarried so there's no reason to ever indicate someone else as a parent.

I don't know how things work in Michigan, but in California, you can request an appointment for mediation.
At the very least, it needs to be pointed out what "shared legal custody" means. You still have a say in what happens in your daughter's life whether she primarily lives with you or not.
It's a shame that parents don't communicate or get along and it's a big hassle for a school or church to have to include both biological parents when it comes to notifications, report cards, permission slips for things.
If your ex and his wife are leaving you out of the equation completely, the best thing you can do is exactly what you did.
Show the orders that prove you have a right to know what's going on with your kid.
I worked at a hospital and you would be surprised how many parents came in wanting medical records for ER visits for their kids they never knew about, but got billed for.
One guy had a kid who had been seen in the ER 4 times in one month and the mother never said a word. She never mentioned a father. She gave his address for the bills. He had to bring in his court papers proving he had a right to the medical records. He wasn't worried about the money....his little kid had been at the ER and the mother never said a single word.
That just isn't right.

Don't worry about what your ex and his wife fill out. As you learn about it, fill out your own paperwork and provide a copy of your court order.
That's one way to go about knowing what's going on.
If it blatantly continues, I would request mediation.

Hang in there!

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R.K.

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I'm sorry for your anguish. I think the church may have needed your documentation to be sure they were giving the information to you legally. Perhaps instead of correcting the form on file, you could ask for another form and fill it out correctly, with you as her mother and with your contact information. Then ask for that form to also be on file, for future use. This way, you are on record, but you are not fighting with your ex. I wish you and your daughter a blessed First Communion day.

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V.E.

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Well, you have something on file for your daughter that can't be altered. It's called a birth certificate and it states who the mother is. I would think that when the forms are submitted to the church, the forms are just filed away and not looked at. I would question why the stepmom is so insecure that she has to list herself as the birth mom/parent/legal guardian. You are right to question and confirm all information regarding your daughter. I hope your ex grows up and starts acting like a mature man and father. What good does he think is going to come from lying about things, on paper, to his daughter, to other people, etc.?

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