Paid Days off (Holiday)

Monday is not their day, so that is a non-issue. My son went to preschool on T/TH last year. If Monday was a holiday, he still went on Tuesday.

The holiday is set by the office, so if I already planned not to be in on Monday, then I never got Tuesday off. I had my "day off" like anybody else. With a daycare, I still paid for days that DD was not there because if they were open, they still had to pay for their staff. I would not get or expect another 'holiday' because DD wasn't scheduled to be there on the holiday.

Monday holidays don't affect a client who doesn't use your services on Monday. No, you can't expect them not to bring the child another day - that's ridiculous!

I worked Monday - Thursday. If a holiday fell on a Friday, like Christmas, I did not get paid for that day. That's just the luck of the draw. If the paid holiday is on Monday, and the child is usually not there on Monday, the daycare provider would not be paid for that day.

No. Based on your example, I would expect them to bring their child on regularly scheduled days.

My hubby has Mondays off. He gets paid holidays. If a holiday falls on Monday, he does not get to take Tuesday off. He also does not get any type of additional compensation.

Sorry but that makes no sense at all. Only if the child's day is ON the holiday should it count.

No, they are part time and therefore are charged by the day. If they can the full week then it would not matter if they came or not, they pay to save their slot. They do not get days off their childcare week.

But if you have agreed to allow them to come on a part time basis then you must charge them by the day. They have an agreement with you only for certain days and not the other days. Anything that occurs on a day they do not come should not effect them at all in any way. They do not have any agreement with anyone about their activities on those days nor do they effect any part of their scheduled attendance.

Same thing with part time employees. They do not get paid holidays nor do they get vacation days built up over the year. They are simply under a different agreement and not full time where they would receive any benefits whatsoever.

As a mom who had Tuesday/Thursday daycare for my kids for many, many years I would not go with a provider who did that. It makes no sense at all.

You could remind your husband that, generally speaking, part-time daycare is very expensive compared to full-time daycare. Most daycares (if they even offer it) will charge more per day for their part-time clients than the do for their full-time clients, so you're probably already getting your money's worth, so to speak.

There is no such thing as a "make up your own paid holiday" or a "the next day is a paid holiday for us.... since we are not scheduled for yesterday" type thing.

The kid, is scheduled for Tues./Wed./Thursdays.
That is THEIR choice.
And they pay, regardless.

Per school, per work, per in home daycare etc. A "holiday" day, is on THAT day. It is not on any other day... nor can the student/employee/customer/client... make up their own willy-nilly ideas or capricious notions... about when they will show up or not.
It is, up to the ESTABLISHMENT or the business... to set, "Holiday" hours or days.

I did childcare. The clients paid a flat rate monthly.
IF they did not show up or was absent for ANY reason, they still had to pay. BECAUSE, I had to keep their slot, open. For THEIR child.
And per holidays or paid off days, they paid.

Your question is kinda confusing.
Anyway, that is my answer, per what I think, you are asking.

I would expect that the paid holiday was just for that day. If there is a holiday on monday that pays time and a half and I don't work that day, that does not mean I than get time and a half for Tuesday. And if the store is closed on Sunday and I don't usually work on Sunday, I would not than expect an extra day off.

I am rather confused by your question, are you saying that you have Monday and Friday off and you are wondering if you should give your daycare provider a paid day off on Tuesday Wednesday or Thursday?

The easy answer is no but the why is the same as your employer. Do you get an extra day's pay because the holiday falls on your day off? Well if you do you are lucky but as a rule if a holiday falls on a business day you don't work then you won't get paid for it, same applies to day care.

After reading your what happened, your husband is wrong. How would he like it if Monday is his day off so he doesn't get paid for Monday then comes to the tightwad daycare who says we don't care that you didn't get paid for the holiday, we are taking your money for a different day of the week. He would find he would start loosing customers pretty darn quick. You can't expect to get paid for that which your own clients don't get paid for.

it's just that specific day. the provider gets an entire day off. they don't get a day off, plus multiple partial days off (or low volume days, or whatever).

my husband continually b***ed about having to pay for a full week on the weeks he didn't go all week. i get it. men have their own rules they think everyone should abide by them because it's more convenient for them....smh...

Unless you are a government employee, then you pretty much don't get a paid holiday unless your work FALLS ON that particular holiday. If your part-time clients don't use you on Mondays, and the holiday falls on a Monday, then you don't get paid for that from them. And they don't have to not bring their kids in on another date to "make up for" it either.

Let me guess...your husband is in a union! (kinda joking :-))
I don't work 40 hours, but my hours are pretty set during the week. Therefore, if a paid holiday falls on a long day (9 hrs), I claim 9 hours. If it falls on a short day (2 hrs), I claim 2 hours. That is fair both directions.

I think you are right, if a person is part time, they are paying for a certain nur of days (3). If you are already flexible in the days, then there should be no problem. Additionally, if you are off on Monday - the only way they could "screw" you would be to drop off their kids on Monday....

If the child comes on a T & W and the holiday falls on a Monday, you shouldn't get paid for that Holiday.

I am not a provider but what I have seen is that a daycare is closed on a certain holiday and kids that normally attend on those days, would not be there. The following day it is business as usual!

The only exception to this is my old provider (in her home) was always closed Good Friday and the Monday after...she claimed the Monday was for Easter Sunday....hello, Easter is always on a Sunday and she' already closed. Businesses and the state don't close on that Monday...just the Friday.

I am a provider. If the holiday falls on a day that the child would regularly be in my care it is a paid holiday and I don't offer a make up. If the holiday falls on a day that the child would not be in my care I would not expect to be paid. My policies list the holidays I take and state that "the regular weekly rate applies".

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For a part time child they only pay for the holiday if they are normally scheduled for the day the holiday falls on. So a Tues/Thurs child would not pay for Labor Day as it falls on a Monday, but they would pay for Thanksgiving and Xmas and New Year's Day this year. A Monday child would pay for Labor day but not the others I just mentioned. From the provider prospective it should be looked at as a logical thing - if the client is M,W,F then you do have the potential of having a T, TH client so that you would get paid by someone from those two for each holiday.

NOW there is ONE exception to what I just said. If a family does NOT have a consistent set schedule (which I don't allow!) then yes, they should pay the normal amount of hours for a week regardless of when the holiday falls. So, if they come 3 days a week but it is not a set 3 days, then next week with Labor Day they must pay for 3 days and only use 2, or pay for 4 days cause they are using an extra day basically. I have seen some providers that have clients contract for 15 days in a month and the parent always gets out of paying the holiday cause they just won't pick that as one of the days that month. In a case like that the provider has to put it in the contract that those months they may only use 14 days as one day is a paid holiday, and any days over that 14 would be paid in addition to the normal monthly charge.

I hope that makes sense. But no, asking them to not come on a day that you are open and they normally do come is not professional nor appropriate.

It all evens out - my kids are part time, either MTW or TWTh. When the holiday falls on a Monday, my care provider still gets paid, or she'll offer for me to switch days. There are also holidays like Thanksgiving or July 4, Christmas or New Years that can fall on different days. Not to mention, when my kids are sick or we go on vacation, my care provider gets paid so I don't think anyone is getting screwed on pay. Good luck!

I have a flat rate for my full time clients........ie: I have 6 paid holidays. I give them 2 weeks/yr (5 vacation days/5 sick days) they can take and not pay me. Other than that, it is due every Monday. These rules do not apply to part timers. They pay a little more per day, but holidays are not applicable. If they sign up for 2 or 3 or 4 days per week, they owe me that if they come or not. Hope this helps. I have bills to pay and have to know what is coming in each week to plan accordingly. Hope this helps!