My Neighbor's Kid Is Mean as H---!

Updated on July 09, 2010
A.R. asks from King, NC
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My neighbor has a 5 year old son who I suspects has some undiagnosed behavioral issues. When our family moved to the neighborhood 3 years ago there were behaviors such as hitting, bad language, and those have never gone away only escalated in the few years we have lived here. The mother and husband are both in law enforcement. The mother seems to think that this is normal boy behavior and has a tendancy to blame others for her sons bad behavior. He hits his parents, calls them names, and has horrible temper tantrums at our house. He appears to have the run of the neighborhood and little supervision. If our children so much as step a toenail outside, he appears. If we drive home from wherever we have been, he comes running up to "play." He calls us all jerks, has spit on us all, choked my kids, hit them, scratched their faces and punches them. He feels it's his right to take over our possessions, but does not share anything of his with my children. I have rules such as he cannot come in our home anymore, when bad behavior starts up, he has to go home immediately. He use to leave and then come right back over. I have had to start calling his parents everytime because he lies and has even started making up things that I say to tell the mother. My children are not allowed in his yard, or home because when things happen such as physical arguments or bad language they blame my older son. My 6 year old is determined to play with him no matter what kind of punishment we dole out. Basically, we have to get in our car and leave our home to get away from this kid. We moved due to my taking a new job and cannot sell our other home. We are STUCK here until the economy gets better and we sell our house. To make matters worse, our cul-de-sac neighbors have the grandson from hell who comes to visit every summer. The 4th he tried to break into our freezer with a screw driver and my husband sent him home to "cool off." He started riding by on his bike and spitting on our mailbox, and shouting at my husband and children who were playing in the back yard.

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First of all I'd like to say, "Thank You," all for your helpful advice and expert knowledge on Asperger's, Austistic Behaviors, and ADHD. I wanted to clarify and say that I was not implying that this child was any of those things listed above because his his violent behavior. I work with children who have all these and he does not seem to fit in any catagory but he has characteristics that are from each behavior, and I have googled them all and not come across anything that I think fits, and I do not know much about ODD. I was thinking Asperger's or Autistic because when he shows up he never speaks to me or my husband, just stares. When we drive by and wave (on our way out of the neighborhood or in and he is in his yard) he stares at us like he doesn't know us and never waves back. Leading me to think maybe he does not understand social cues. ADHD because of lack of impluse.

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K.D.

answers from Raleigh on

Wow, I sympathize. That is a tough situation. Maybe next time he comes over to play outside with your kids you could have a 'meeting' and tell all the kids what the rules are for good play behavior and if the rules are broken that child will have to go back to their house. Your kids would have to go inside and the neighbor child would have to go back to their house. And also specify that we don't get to 'try again' until the next day. I would stay outside and supervise this play and then send him home when he acts up. Then tell your kids to let you know if he comes back so you can send him home again. He needs boundaries that are enforced and it sounds like he is not getting that at home. He will fall into line, I think, if you stick with it.

As to whether he is adhd, autistic, or odd - not sure. He could be odd and if the consistent boundary setting doesn't work, then that is a possibility. Even adhd kids can learn boundaries and be good playmates. They might be hyper and lack focus is all. As to autistic - does he look you in the eyes or your kids in the eyes when he talks. Does he actually talk conversationally with your kids at all? I would look up the symptoms of these diagnoses on the internet and see if you think he matches. Maybe if he does, you could leave a printout of the symptoms for that diagnosis in the parent's mailbox - or maybe you will have to anonymously mail it to them since the boy may notice.

As to that grandson, I would inform the neighbors of every incident and see if that helps.

Good luck!

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I.G.

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Wow, that's a tough one.
I think the only suggestion I have is to invest into fully fencing your property (front and back) and having a lock on the gate - as well as simply not allowing him over anymore AT ALL. Period. Never, no matter how he promises to be better.
Tell you son that since he cannot behave in a proper way he cannot be his friend. At least at this age you can still do this, once your son is older it won't work any more.
I sumpathize with this kid, since I do believe if children are acting out this extremely there must be something awful going on in their lives. But I don't see how you can help him and you have to protect your own children first.

As for your kids, just invite more friendly playdates over for them to enjoy and they will forget the little hellboy neighbor really fast!

Good luck!

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M.R.

answers from Columbus on

Holy Cow! This sounds like a kid who is out of control and has no supervision, and his parents are willing to let him run the neighborhood. He may very well have a developmental issue, which is all the more reason that a 5 year old should not be left unsupervised. You have two young men who should not be at your house at all. If any child took a screwdriver to part of my home, I would call the police, for the sake fo the child-because he is obviously not learning right from wrong from his parents and grand parents, or he is unable to apply it to himself, and his gaurdians obviously need some help (or an order) to get him the intervention that he needs.

I would tell the 5 year old's parents that he is not welcomed on your property at all any more, and suggest that they get him some help. Then, I would watch that 6 year old like a hauk and make sure that he follows the rules, and I would do it with what ever his most prized currency is to let him know I meant business at the first opportunity. If the boy comes over, call the authorities about the child who has been banned from your property that is trespassing, and tell them that the child is only 5 years old and is running the neighborhood without supervision and let them deal with it because you are worried about his safety being alone. There are some things that you just should not try to deal with yourself.

Speaking as a parent with kids who have special needs, I don't see special needs here first, while there may be "needs" with these boys, the most important thing that these boys need is supervision and dicipline from thier gaurdians, who are not doing what they should be doing if these kids act this way consistently. Impuslivity is an issue for many kids with special needs, but this sounds willful to me...there is not a developmental issue (neither ADHD or Autism) with "mean" as one of the symptoms. Mean is a function of personality and poor nurture, not disablity.

M.

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W.M.

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I would stay away from him, keep him away from your kids, and find a polite way to tell his parents that until he behaves with manners that your children will not be able to play with him. Tell his mom what he has done! No way would I let my kids play with him! When he comes to your door or in your yard, tell him your children cannot play with him until he behaves. I would be polite but honestly be very firm in telling him and your kids that he is not allowed to play with them.

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L.A.

answers from Austin on

Ditto Karen. Have the talk and tell all of the kids what the consequences will be if they do not follow the rules.

You may want to mention this to all of the neighborhood parents so everybody can get on board. Maybe you can all come up with "expectations and consequences". Mention behaviors may mean their child will be sent home and that includes your won child.. This way it evens the playing field.

In our hood we had a ton of kids all around the same age and we all all had pretty much the same parenting skills and ideas, so we all helped each other out in these situations. We had a couple of twin sisters that needed to be observed more carefully, they were a handful in a charming Eddie Haskill way. Their parents would just smile if we mentioned their behaviors.. so we just tried to have their parents close by as much as possible, so the girls would not act up.

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R.J.

answers from Seattle on

Strong 2nd for fully fencing your yard.

((Btw... no idea what professional fencing costs in your area... but getting ours done, the LOWEST bid for 500 feet was somethng like 4k. Oy. No thank you. So we did it ourselves. Cost a grand total of $600 including posts, cement, wood, & nails. We already had a level... borrowed saw horses and a hand held rotary saw. Had never used one before. Looked up "how to" on This Old House .com and had a friend start us off. Our 7yo started over 1/2 the nails. It's gorgeous AND functional, although it was a definite learning process. We're so tight, we couldn't afford that all at once, so we bought the posts and cement one month -and set them-, the wood for the front the next -did the front yard-, and then ditto over 2 months for the back yard.))

Also, I'd recommed laying down the law with YOUR kiddo. Neighborhood kid is absolutely not allowed to come over and play until he can learn to be nice. NOT your son's fault, but until Jesse James can learn... he's not allowed over. I'd just keep repeating myself when your son wants to play;

"Jesse can't come play with you until he learns to be nice." That way YOUR son doesn't hear the "You can't play with Jesse" implying fault to your own kiddo.

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