Looking for Some Fresh Ideas for Tired Old Sleeping Problems

Updated on December 09, 2011
S.L. asks from Moab, UT
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If you have read any of my past posts, you will see that i have a 6 month old that is having trouble sleeping through the night. So let me give you the main points and everyone can just give me their advice.
1- She goes down awake every night after eating a big dinner. She usually eats, hangs out for 10 minutes or so, gets a quick bath, and is in bed. Often times I get her in bed within 5 minutes of the first eye rub. She generally will go to sleep right away or within 2-3 minutes. Her daytime sleep pattern is GREAT and hasn't been effected by this. Sleeps 8:30am for 1 hour, 12pm for 2 hours and while I wish we could get rid of the last one, 5pm for 20-30 mins. That is right when I pick her up from daycare so she falls asleep in the car on the way home and there is really nothing I can do about that.

2- We tried the CIO method the weekend before Thanksgiving and Friday night- cried 3 hours and 1 hour. Saturday and Sunday night we heard from her for 20 minutes and by Tuesday night (before Thanksgiving) she was sleeping through the night. No swaddle, no running in for binky check, no food. So I was considering it a success. Then, this last Thursday (about 1 week of good sleep) she started in with a mild cough and got her 6 month shots and now she is up 3-6 times a night and many times just wants to sleep on me. She will just pass out the minute I pick her up usually and doesn't wake until I try and put her back in her bed of course.

3- While she may be teething, she doesn't have any poking through and I give her tylenol when she goes to sleep.

4- we are running a humidifier in her room with some Vicks in it. When i pick her up she doesn't feel hot or cold, just right. She really isn't coughing that much. She isn't running a fever. We are taking her to the Dr tomorrow just to make sure she is good, but the cough itself isn't keeping her up. Sometimes i will hear her coughing and she will go right back to sleep.

5- Last night she was restless at 12:45am and my husband and I (we share a wall with her room) just let her move around a little and fuss to see if she could get herself back to sleep. She was quite again 5 minutes later and I thought she was good. Then about 1:25am she was up screaming.

6- finally- she has about 15 binkies in her crib and one on a very short binky clip attached to her pjs but I often go in there and she will just not care to find one but if I were to put it in her mouth she is out in a miliasecond!

I work a stressful 40-hour a week job, as does my husband. We have a todller at home and this is really putting a strain on the entire family. I have slept on the couch with her every night since Thursday last week just to get her to sleep. We have tried putting her down earler, later, with and without a bath, we have tried going in to check on her after a few minutes but not picking her up (that just really pisses her off) and we have tried not going in at all. The other night, while I was crying on the couch, she cried for over 2 hours straight!! I have also recently given her a bottle (2xs in the last 6 days) and that doesn't stop her from waking up again in just an hour or two. She has had acid reflux problems in the past, but when she is awake and crying it is more of a frustrated cry then a painful one and she isn't arching her back like she used to when she was really struggling with it.

We have also read Healthy Sleep Habits for Healthy Babies, Babywise, and Happiest Baby on the Block. Tried them all over the course of the last two months- or were already doing them.

I realize this is a repeative question for the site and for me, but I just don't know what else to do. Please try to avoid the condesending answers about how this is life with a baby or how CIo is mean etc. I know everyone has their opinions on this and if you would like to share that opinion please do so without judgement or condesention. thank you ladies!!

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J.P.

answers from Los Angeles on

Sounds like he's in pain and not manipulating you.

Liquid calmag from Bluebonnett (blueberry flavor) for the baby. It works amazingly well. Sometimes we add a little Calms Forte 4 kids with it at night. Both of these help with pain and relaxing the central nervous system.

All 4 of my kids have slept like rocks and if they ever went through non-sleeping issues like this, I just increase the calcium until they sleep.

I am breastfeeding, so I increase my calmag (and NOT calcium carbonate, ever!) intake and my babies have all slept better, especially if they are teething. My calmag has vit C, fit D, zinc, boron, horsetail herb, manganese, and of course 7 different types of calcium and magnesium. It works like a charm.

We also get our kids adjusted by a chiropractor and that helps a ton, as well. Our 6 month old was fussy for 3 nights a few weeks ago and I was losing it. I went and got him adjusted the next am. Haven't had an issue since.

PS: If the kids have so much as a runny nose, or cough - ANY SIGN of being sick, the pediatricians are not suppose to give any shots, since their immune systems are already stressed. This can lead to a vaccine reaction. Liquid vitamin C helps decrease the reactions from the vaccines.

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T.S.

answers from San Francisco on

I really, really feel for you!
I can tell you what worked for me with my three kids, and you can decide to try it or not.
Baby always started the night in the crib. If baby woke up and clearly wasn't going to fall back to sleep I just brought baby into bed with me (I was nursing but I'm sure snuggling with a binky would work too.)
This was no grand parenting strategy, ideology or anything else. I NEEDED MY SLEEP, period! I could not function being up and down several times a night, nor could I (or the rest of the family) sleep with a wailing infant in the house.
And since they always started the night in their own bed there was never any "bad habit" to break later.
Good luck, I hope it gets better soon!

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M.S.

answers from Kansas City on

I have a couple of thoughts based on your explanations. You mention she coughs, some, not a lot, but in her sleep. Also history of acid reflux. In adults, acid reflux worsens when lying down, need to sit up after eating to wait til food is out of stomach. Sometimes the head of bed needs to be elevated as the acid comes up from stomach into the throat, causes a chronic cough. Maybe this is happening to your daughter since you are putting her down shortly after eaing her dinner. And you say that she goes to sleep when you pick her up and she will sleep "on you". Maybe when she is elevated with head higher than her stomach, she is getting some relief.
Does she take anything for the acid reflux? Maybe she is forming gas in her stomach as well, maybe not terribly painful, but uncomfortable, maybe enough that she just can't sleep. There is a possibility these are related. I wonder if trying her in a reclining position rather than lying down flat would make a difference. Just a thought.
Good luck, when my son was a baby, he had colic and he never slept through the night until he was almost a year old and I worked so much with no sleep, it is miserable.

C.M.

answers from St. Louis on

Unfortunately, at six months old...there may be a variety of issues going on. She could be teething, going through a growth spurt, sick, etc.

I like what Mamazita said. I did that often with my daughter. My son would not sleep in the same bed with hubby and I very often. He liked his space. He did have a period of 2-3 months (around 6 months old) where he'd wake up a few times a week around 2am and would NOT go back to sleep until 4-5am. It was horrible but I was saved because at that time, hubby was working 2nd shift and was still up at that time so he took care of him, played with him, etc.

I think she is TOO young to expect him to sleep through the night or cry it out. Is she still eating at night? If not, and rubbing her back, singing to her, etc does not help, have you tried picking her up and rocking her for a bit? I realize you do not want to get into any habits that may be hard to break later, but bottom line you need your sleep!!

My daughter was a 50% of the time cosleeper (would go down in her bed and end up in ours anywhere from mightnight - 5am) but is now 4 years 2 months old and sleeps in her bed all night and hardly wakes up. So no matter what it WILL get better!!!

I'd recommend bringing her into your bed instead of sleeping with her on the couch. Not sure if you are doing that so you do not wake up your hubby or because it's more comfortable or safety reasons but I would think you would sleep better in your bed. If you are afraid you'll roll onto her, you can get one of those cosleeping wedges.

Good luck!

B.C.

answers from Kansas City on

I wish I had a magic answer. My 17 month old still wakes numerous times in the night. He wakes up screaming hysterical if we try and put him in his crib. So we co sleep. He falls asleep in our bed, I have a pnp in our room that I can sometimes get him in after he falls asleep. Then generally he wakes 2 hours later and throughout the night. He's never been a good napper either. I wish I could get a full nights sleep out of him, for myself as well. But I keep telling myself that it will eventually get better. Sorry you have a demanding job and it's taking a toll on your family.
I think raising the bed as another pp suggested is a good idea.

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M.M.

answers from Kansas City on

I think you should google 'sleep regression.' Maybe she is not in the midst of a sleep regression, but it's good to know that they exist and there isn't much you can do about them.

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