In Laws/sis-bro in Laws

Updated on October 20, 2010
M.M. asks from Porter Ranch, CA
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Hi

I would like advice please. I am married 15 years and i love my husband very much. we have two young children. I would like to give some background first. I have always tried to make efforts with my MIL, BIL's and SIL's. But it wasnt much reciprocated.. The other cousins are older in the teens and 3 yrs older than mine and although mine are school grade I thought it was important to keep the next generation together. I have NO Family except my parents who I am close with. But, I always wanted a Big Family, Yes it was an expectation, a thought and a dream of mine. I am an only child too.

I have tried for many years to have a relationship with bot SIL's and MIL without much reciprocation. I would just keep trying, i may get some response, then none and i would try again. it was this vicious cycle for me. but i didnt want to give up. if there was an issue with any of them, i would let it go and not make anything an issue even when things were done to me that were not right or even mean at times. I mean I didnt start anything with anyone for years.. I just shut my mouth because of my husband. This past Summer things started to happen and I just couldnt keep quiet..I wasnt rude, but nice and gracious but seem to back fire in so many ways to me.

Here we go: My two sister n laws are close ( they were amrried before me)and I have tried over the last 15 years to have one with them. And, we did but the problem was they stood by each other and only called when they wanted something for the most part. it was never consistant by them.. Me and my family were left out plenty of time with get togethers with their families(my kids cousins), not invited to birthday parties etc. Basically, Whole family functions we see them 4-5 times a year. I was closer with one more than the other. But, Jen who I had a relationship with, would always go back to Sally. I call them the magnet twins. They talk about me behind my back and I find out, They judge me before even asking me about whatever situation it is. This past summer all the women in the family..SIL's,Cousins (almost all girls) and My MIL planned a two day,one night outing. They planned it to a tea all of them. Then I was asked if me and my girls could come. I was soo hurt and upset becuase I feel I should have been involved in the planning ie, date, place etc. Needless to say i did not go nor did my kids. I told them how I felt and all I got was i was too sensitive and these were the dates that were best for us. One SIL didnt even respond to me. Things of this sort happened a lot.

Well, another example.. One has a boy who is inappropriate wiith my daughter since she was 4, she is now 8 and the boy is 3 years older. There has been no sex of course or vaginal touching. But for ex. rubbing her chest in circular motion or grabbing her but or wagging his tongue very close to her mouth.. just two examples. I have told my husband this over and over and he did really nothing! He eventually talked to his brother who blew up at him.. in the end, the agreement, was you watch your child and i will watch mine. they never watched their child, it was ME only running around and following them. thats it. no apology, just defensiveness and denial. btw this boy has behavioral and developmental issues but i dont know what. the whole family knows there is an issue but they have not personally shared it with us. the parents do not do anything to help him. they r in denial from what i see and have heard.

my husband has tried to talk about all of these issues(mind u i am only tellling u a bit of the puzzle of things that have happened or i would b writing a book, lol) with his brothers and sister n laws. one SIL said to my hubby i will not talk to u only M.. i met with Jen to try to resolve our issues, we spent three hours talking. she aologized for hurting me, being insensitive, using harsh words, she also promised she will not be caddy anymore and if anyone says anything about me she would say i dont want to hear it. well, this lasted one week! a month later she called again to apologize to if we could talk. i never responded.

i want no relationships at all with my SIL's at this point. Things will never change and I realise this even though it hurts.But I dont want to be screwed anymore. I have been told by various people that they r jealous of me for many reasons, reasons I could not possibly understand. My MIL included said this to me whiich by the way have no relationship with. she is a very selfish women. but atleast she is like this with all of us, but still hurts. .

This of course has affected my marriage. Paul, my husband, seems to have a need to try an make everyone happy and get along. Paul also has said his family members have done terrible and mean things to me, yet I dont understand why he would want to be around people who do this to his wife. IT feels like he is in the middle which he is, yet is nice to them and we fight about it. he wants to not upset anyone in his family even though i have been hurt at the expense of our child and me.thankfully my chlld is fine. it has been a difficult few months, i am depressed and that is not my nature. we are in therapy too once a week for a while now. i have not spoken to anyone about anything otherwise.

My teenage nieces have deleted me and blocked me on their FB the other day out of no where and have no idea. ver hurtful. This tells me that their parents are talking to them about this or they are hearing it from each other. This disgusts me!!! No child should know what is going on in this. It is between the adults. I told my husband..u know what happened.. he wouldnt take them off his FB, so i took the remainders of mine. I dont want them to know my personal business. I told my husband if u chose to keep them on yours, then i cant have u on mine at all. he chose his nieces for now. i took Paul off.

We agreed to talk nothing about his family at all as it only leads to bad fights. I chose not to go around his family. it makes me so uncomfortable number one and second, now the teenagers are part of this. how would u feel going into a room by yourself even with the hubby knowing you r not liked at all? My husband says you will stay by me.. To be honest, it is unrealistic. we decided he takes the children with him to his family functions even if i chose not to go. what do u think of this?

i appreciate all of you reading this and helping me thru this please. if anyone though is judgemetnal, or rude, please dont respond.

Thanks, Mel

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D.P.

answers from Pittsburgh on

You tried. It failed. Avoid them. Let him visit with and talk to his family and don't give him a hard time about it. After all, they ARE his family. Handle yourself with dignity and grace. He will see eventually that they are not correct with you. It's not a battle of you vs. him. or him vs. his family. That's a lose-lose attitude. You tried to make him choose between you & his nieces on FB and that's not right. Someone has to be mature. Might as well be you. Is it fun? No. Is it best for harmony? Yes.

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M.L.

answers from Houston on

I'm sorry you re going through this,. It sounds like you are burning your bridges. You deleted your husband from your own facebook because he wouldn't delete his nieces? Who cares they blocked you, teens are wishy washy and impressionable and one day will see the truth, but by deleting them and your husband, then it makes you look like the weird, maladjusted one. Seriously, it makes no sense why you would delete your husband, he has every right to remain in contact with his family. You can still maintain your privacy and be his friend too. If you had not deleted your neices, then perhaps you could have salvaged a relationship with them and they could have seen you had good character. There really shouldn't be any reason you feel the need to block them if you aren't posting things you would be embarrassed about getting back to the family.

Honestly, it doesn't sound all that bad, every family has different dynamics... every family has problems and a few weird and difficult people. Annoying, rude, sure... but when they invited you to the tea and then the one sil called to talk and apologize and your brushed them both off because it didn't happen within your own time frame. Honestly, they planned a tea and invited you, be grateful they did that, I don't always include people in the planning when I do things.

With the inappropriate touching with the little boy, yes, you are absolutely right, don't let your daughter around the kid unsupervised. But seriously, let everything else go and get on with your life.

Remaining bitter and upset over things that are big... only makes you become even more bitter and upset over things that are little. Maybe you need to brush this chip off your shoulder and try and start over. Not trying to be their best friend or anything, but stop all of this anger and upset, let it go and you will be happier for it.

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L.M.

answers from Dover on

Sounds like there are a lot of issues, including in your marriage. I understand why you don't want to go but given your nephew's inappropriate behavior, I wouldn't let your daughter go without you. You can't forbid your husband from interacting with his family (although I understand why you want to). Seek counseling.

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F.H.

answers from Phoenix on

Mel, I understand this because I'm an only child with only my mom as my immediate family. So I understand your "need" to have a big family and everyone be happy. But that isn't reality. I think its ok that you limit your time with them. You don't need to go to parties, but if you do, just go for a short time and leave. Don't feel like you have to hang out with them for 8 hours. And don't fight with Paul because he's still in touch with them. They are HIS family after all. He can have them on FB and be in touch. You just need to limit YOUR communication and time with them. And don't put your kids in the middle either. Those are their relatives and have a right to be in touch with them and see them also. EXCEPT for the boy cousin who is touching your daughter. If no one else is going to take it seriously, YOU need to. Which means if your daughter is going to a party that that cousin will be at, then YOU must attend. Just make it a short visit. I hope this helps. I have had to limit my time with some family members and it's really made a difference for the better. Life is too short to live it unhappy. Good luck to you!

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S.H.

answers from St. Louis on

family can really suck at times. Most issues boil down to who's being more hard-headed, hard-hearted, & unkind........than the other.

Picking & choosing, drawing lines, placing barriers, & asking loved ones to chose sides.......means that everyone involved loses. I seriously recommend family counseling at this point....if you want to save your marriage.

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D.S.

answers from Tulsa on

my other halfs family is similar to yours. I will not go to a family function at all. if he chooses to go he can take the kid depending on the situation. I will not go to his family functions and I will not keep him from his family. even though right now he is choosing to stay away. we fight more over his family than sex, money and kids combined. I have all of his family blocked off of my facebook. you can block facebook where all they can see is you r name and profile pic and nothing more. go in and block them.

I think he doesnt like the way his family is treating me or him so he is in no contact wtih them other than 2 of them have him on a freinds list on facebook. no one has his number or address. because of family friction. this was his choice not mine I suggested he at least give one of them a phone number and he said no.so I stay out of it it is between him and his sisters. they have to deal with the bed that they made. If i was you I would feel sorry for him for being caught in the middle. I know my sils are treating him wrong so that is the reason I refuse contact with them. look at it like this he is caught in the middle and no matter which way you go he loses.either the love of his sisters or you. when mine started acting like they didn't love him he chose me. I realize they arent going to love him no matter what he does. he may someday tell them if my wife dont go I dont go and she wont go till you treat her right. maybe they will wake up but dont get your hopes up

A.C.

answers from Cincinnati on

This sounds sooooooooooo familiar! You are not alone. Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree with his family & you move on, like you have. You can't blame him for still wanting to have a relationship (even if it's a screwed up one) with his sisters & mom but you certainly don't have to participate. Karma has a way of biting these kinds of people in the behind. It's always proven that to me. Don't be a rumor spreader, gossiper, drama queen or anything else that will give them ammo & you're good. It sounds like your a good person that genuinley cares.... I know it's hard not to take it to heart. Especially if you feel like you did nothing wrong. Since you've made the decision (currently) to move past them & their childish games, write them a letter. Each one. You don't have to mail it or anything but it will at least get all the hurts out. Good luck. This too shall pass.

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B.O.

answers from Dallas on

your inlaws sound a lot like mine, only we are far enopugh away that I only have to deal with them once or twice a year! Nicholis CoutureI have no advice because I still get soooo mad, even from across the country!! I have blocked my FIL and BIL's from my facebook because they would cyber stalk me and complain to my husband if I made a comment they didn't like, even to people they didn't know!!! I was sooooo mad!!!! then my husband has the nerve to say something to me. IO told him if his family didn't like what i had to say to one of MY friends, they didn't have to be my friend. I only have them as a courtesy so they can see pics pf the kids and keep up with what is going on! I always wanted to marry into a big family b/c i thought it would be sooo much fun! Now I thank God for the 4 people in our little side of family that are virtually drama free! Good luck, and try not to let them get to you.

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R.J.

answers from Seattle on

Purely on the niece issue... MOST teens start deleting as many family members as they can get away with off of their FB accounts. What was fun as preteens becomes either "uncool" or they want prying adult eyes out so they can goof with their friends/ try out inappropriate things and not get reprimanded for it.

A lot of what you are describing is just "family politics".

It's natural for sibs to talk / do a lot of planning / randomly get together / hash out their lives & or history... which creates 2 things:

1) Apparent "get togethers" that are just spur of the moment things / unplanned that others don't get invited to. One doesn't typically have to "work" with sibs ... the house is trashed, fine. There's no food in the fridge, no problem. The kids are climbing the walls, whatever. The moment friends and or inlaws get involved... the house needs to be cleaned (at least a little, while more often than not sibs will often cheerfully just step over piles of laundry and shift the newspapers to the floor), there need to be snacks in the fridge for other cousins, kids need to be in a decent behavioral place, etc. (My sis has come over with my son in a screaming temper tantrum and in his room... I would NEVER invite my SIL over when my son is having a meltdown, and if she just dropped by, I'd feel awkward.)

2) Premade plans that they invite others along on. I've called my brother up to ask about x... and 20 minutes later we have full on plans for y... completely unrelated to x (x being something like: What are you getting mom for xmas, or did you SEE the score???, or hey I have to take my car in for breaks where did you say you go for pads?)... and end up with camping plans in 2 weeks. At which point we start inviting others along on. AFTER we call our mum (my job to do that). Not for permission... but because she's the human date book in our family, and it's both expected and required.

Another aspect of "family politics" is the "Who goes first?". In most families there are the planners, the bringers, the talkers, the late ones, the idea people, the anal, the last to know, the first to remember, the reminder of others, the "don't EVER tell dad, until mom already knows" rule *everyone* knows, the tell AJ it starts 30 minutes before it does, or she'll be 45 minutes late instead of 15 minutes rule, the _______, the _______. Roles and rules, roles and rules, which are particular to each individual family. Over years and decades people fall into patterns that are almost IMPOSSIBLE to break. For example: Everyone calls my mum. She's the center part of the web for family plans. All invitations, ideas, etc get bounced off of her first... and then shoot out... web like to everyone else, regardless of who is actually planning the get together. In my husband's family, that role is held by my SIL. My SILs BILs who have married in, very quickly learn that any "all of us" thing goes through my mum... or it's not "real" to anyone. Just like I learned really quickly it's my SIL on my husband's side.

Family politics just get complicated. And when one marries into a family (in my experience) they do NOT change. My family has all their roles and rules and my husband and those who have married into my family only alter the body count. In my husband's family, I follow all of THEIR roles and rules, I haven't changed them a molecule. Talking with my sibs and their spouses, it's pretty universally true. Also, that anyone disparaging or trying to *alter* those roles and rules gets stonewalled. Not maliciously (at least not in my family), but "blank stare" like. Like someone is trying to walk around outside butt naked, and wants you to join them. Wha??? But, that's just not the way it works!!

I'm not saying your inlaws aren't awful people. I've completely cut myself off from some of my inlaws on my husband's side because I am NOT going to be a part of x, y, z. Period. Not okay. Not doing it. Which is my choice. But it's also done without animus. They're happy. I just never would be, living that way. So I don't. Except for large family gatherings that I can avoid them by being with others.

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C.C.

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busy now i will write a longer response tomorrow.

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