Hysterical at Night and Wont Go to Bed - HELP!

Updated on October 18, 2007
L.N. asks from Atlanta, GA
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we have a 21 almost 22 month old girl and in the past week we have had awful problems getting her to bed. we start with bath after dinner, then play quiet and read for a while, The usual routine that was fine for ever. then the drama starts. basically most nights we've started putting her to bed at 8pm and usually its about midnight when she gives in. She is hysterical (screaming which is piercing, rigid, arching, flailing etc - all that just great stuff!), wont stay in bed. Shes been out of a crib for a couple of months as we were averaging 2 hours a night in it. shes been fine in her toddler bed.ut she just screams and flails while we are holding her. THEN when she finally passes out from exhaustion at midnight shes awake 3 or 4 times in the night hyserical again and up at 7am.
its driving us mad, my husband says theres nothing wrong and its normal toddler - sorry but spending 4 hours trying to get her to bed and being kicked in the throat every night is normal to me. Any ideas what we can do? i feel like im going nuts....
Now before you ask, no i know shes not getting enough sleep which is why shes cranky,, this is the problem. We cant get her to sleep. her day naps vary from 45 mins to 3 hours and have no bearing on her sleeping. our ped says let her cry it out - we have neighbors and 4 hours of hysterics and feet stamping isnt an option. Basiclly no one we ask is any help and i just dont know where to turn. she doesnt have an ear infection, shes not sick, shes very healthy and eating fine, is happy and has all her needs taken care of. Shes very vocal and very bright and the other night we asked her if she was scared to go to bed - she said yes. now i dont know what to do about that. So does anyone have any useful advice or tips that DOESNT involver letting her cry it out! sorry its a bit long, ive had a very sleep interupted (short) night again... thanks very much.

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thanks everyone for your very helpful advice. sorry i havent replied to you all, but just havent had the chance. Well its sort of worked, She going to bed a little better now, but now she wakes up screaming in the middle of the night - almost every night, she has very vivid dreams as we hear her talking in her sleep. and will only go back to sleep if shes with daddy! So now we have to figure out this issue!!
But thanks again and i have read each and every post, so thankyou for taking the time to help me.

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G.L.

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I know what you are going thru, I went thru it with both of my girls (4, and 2 now). I lived in an apartment while dealing with this for both of them. Let me tell you, the doctor is right. Try putting her to bed a little bit later than 8p...maybe 10p... then put her in her bed (do you have a night light?) and let her cry herself to sleep...whatever you do, do NOT go in the room. It took two nights from when I started letting them cry themselves to sleep and they were all better. She's testing you, she knows that acting out means staying up longer. Just don't give in...there's an end to it. I know it's tough, just be strong. Good luck:)

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A.C.

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I can completely understand your frustration. My toddler did the same thing and still ocassionally does! It happened the same way with us where the nightly routine was fine forever and then all of a sudden it went south. My ped said the same thing about letting her cry it out. When you live in an apartment like we do and have neighbors, you can't let them cry for hours. We tried to change her routine a little with a bit more quiet time before the bath, and then started letting her have some decisions. What pj's to wear, what lotion to put on, what book to read. When that routine wouldn't work on some nights, we started letting her fall asleep in our bed or even us rocking her again. THAT WORKED!!!! Us being in the bedroom for a little bit, but not making her necessarily go to "bed" helped with the fight. Now she is 3 and still sometimes fights, but she is a lot easier to reason with since she is older. I know this stinks and you are probably stressed out, but I promise it will get better.

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A.B.

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HI L.,
I know how daunting this can be, my now 4 yr old did this for awhile. And she is at the right age for her imagination to start working over time and make things up that aren't there. We had to try several things and some worked for a day or so and then we had to try some thing else. First make sure she has a light in the room, such as a dim lamp and no scary shadows or lights coming from outside, etc. and have Dad "scare" away any thing that could be scaring her. If it is b/c she is scared it could be as easy as psychologically giving some thing to make her believe that she is totally safe and be creative in things that could be her safety item. Such as hanging a picture of Dad on the wall to watch over her as she sleeps, etc. Make sure she has a favorite blanket and stuffed animal with her, also try laying down in (or next to) the bed with her until she falls asleep, we finally let the cat sleep in the room with him and that works b/c he is not by himself at all and thinks his cat will protect him! LOL Even now (2 years later) he sometimes asks for the cat to be in there with him.

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K.T.

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Dr. Sears' Baby Sleep Book saved our life, and marriage! I can't recommend it highly enough. Besides the noise problem, the medical research that is finally coming out on cry-it-out is terrifying. I don't think most pediatricians are up-to-date. When we asked ours about the studies we found, he was unaware, and actually said he'd be changing his recommendations to a more neutral position. Stay strong! You're on the right track. Pick up a copy of Dr. Sears' book before bedtime tonight- it will encourage you so much and change your night!

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S.P.

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We have one son that has had periodic sleep issues over his seven years. All of the sudden he just decides that he's afraid to be in his room by himself. When this first happened at about age 3 we did what you describe, doing whatever we could to get him to bed, repeatedly returning him to bed all night, and we, too, we just exhausted and pretty much non-functioning. On the advice of our pediatrician we started putting a pallet on the floor of our room. Depending on his age, and the severity of his fears, some times he started the night on the pallet, some times he started in his bed, then migrated to the pallet when he woke up afraid. This at least enabled all of us to get some sleep. It also seemed to help him gradually work himself out of his fears and be able to stay in his bed. Then we'll have a period of several months with no problems, followed by some months of pallet time. Right now, he's seven and half, and he's been on the pallet off and on over the past four weeks, but I see him feeling better and returning to bed full time soon.

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D.H.

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If she's scared, maybe sleeping a little closer to you might help. Maybe you could try putting her mattress on the floor of your room and see if she sleeps better that way. Not sure what else to tell you. Hope you get some sleep soon!

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K.G.

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Oh hunny! I know what you are going through. I read in someone else's post about playing soft music. That worked miracles for me! I bought a cheap CD player (make sure you have repeat option) and a classical music CD.
I would put that in my boys room, on repeat, and it was a dream come true! I kept it playing all day long as well. They would still cry but the music was soothing.

Hang in there....it can only get better.

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S.B.

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I suggest that during the day when things are calm, you talk to her about what is expected at bedtime. Role play with one of her bears or dolls. This way she will know what to expect. Try playing calming music at betime and if she doesn't already have one a nightlight.
She'll cry as usual but you have to be conisitent. Say prayers with her and include a special prayer to have her guardian angel watch over her while she sleeps. Put her down, say good night and tuck her in with her fav bear. She will get out of bed; put her back but don't hang out talking or soothing her. It will be hard but you have to keep repeating the routine.
It will get better.

Be blessed!

S.

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C.D.

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The power of verbal suggestion is very strong, so she may or may not be “scared to go to bed.” However, if she is, believe me, there is a reason. Something done or said in innocence or fun may have really scared her. This is the Halloween season and we don’t watch TV this month because of all the scary trailers of horror movies, even on the Disney Channel and Nickelodeon and “harmless” cartoons. Even the children’s products have scary symbols and normally sweet characters say scary things at this time of year. Monsters are hanging all over the grocery store and are on the windows. Our children don’t like clowns because one scared them one time when they were little. She may be super sensitive to “monster” things like this. So check her room, her books, her TV watching, her friends at day care (I assume you’ve asked about happenings during your work time) and anything else – could be as simple as a magazine lying around. Ask gently but seriously anyone who cares for her including father if anything has scared her lately because it will carry over to “monsters under the bed and everywhere”. At her age, she is in the middle of a major separation issue, so make sure she knows that you and her father are not going away while she sleeps. Be careful where she wakes up when she does go to sleep. Some children miss the womb when they’re born and some children are more comfortable swaddled and in a smaller bed or need more tings to love in the bed with them.

Another possibility is that you have changed laundry detergents or fabric softeners and she is having a hard time breathing in her once comfortable bed and pajamas. You might not believe the toxic chemicals and minute glass particles that are in your common household products on the shelf. Children breathe harder and have smaller lungs than adults and are affected more by them. Switch to a gentle, non-toxic one with no harmful ingredients and you might see a difference in the whole household’s sleep quality. I can tell you where to purchase because the ones at the health food store are too expensive for everyday use, but I, personally, would not use the ones sold at the major stores. I use a brand that I order direct that I trust implicitly not to be harmful. Check out www.concernedmoms.com to educate yourself a little and email me for more information. I love sharing my source.

I know this is an exhausting process, but it has an answer. Screaming for hours is never good for the child, parents or the neighbors. At some periods of the day and certain periods of life, children really need to be cuddled and pampered to understand unconditional love and the parent’s abiding presence. People who think you’re “spoiling” them worry that I’m cuddling them too much. My word is “comforting” and there are no children in this world that I have spoiled. I have helped very traumatized youngsters (in foster care), even at older ages, by holding them very tight in my arms and rocking with them. I make up tunes and sing to them words that explain that nothing will hurt them and assurance that they are safe. My sister calls me the “sleepy time lady” when she tells frustrated Moms to hand over their baby for me to get them to sleep. So don’t give up hope; relax even though you’re losing sleep (Moms have a way of keeping on keeping on until they CAN rest) because she feels your stress and tension, try all these things and I’ll look forward to hearing from you personally about what works or if you need more help.

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R.

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First of all, I pray for your continued strength, patience and sense of calm.....and also for your daughter to learn to calm herself.

Secondly....here are a few things that helped my husband and I. We have one son who is now 4.5 yo.

We tried to create a calming routine as a prelude to bed time. But made sure that he was not asleep when we put him in bed...just drowsy and in pre-sleep relaxation.

About 45 minutes before bedtime we would try to not overstimulate him (stay away from active play, tv, loud music or loud activity in the house). We would bath him in a soothing way (no active play), maybe use a lavender scented soap which helps calm and dim the lights in the bathroom. Use the time before dressing him to lay him on the bed or changing table and gently massage his legs, arms, and abdomen with cream using long gentle strokes. Speak to him softly. Keep the lights in the bedroom dim. After dressing him, spend some time cuddling and maybe read a bedtime story. Make sure to lay her down to sleep while she is still awake! Maybe turn on a music box like one of the musical light boxes that attach to the crib so that she can be soothed by the music as you say good night and close the door. When he was old enough we taught him to turn the music box on himself when he woke up in the middle of the night.

There were nights when he had difficulty and we ended up having to let him cry for a long time before he cried himself to sleep. (which as a mom was the hardest thing to do!) But for the most part he transitioned well and began sleeping throught the night regularly.

Sleep is a beautiful thing....sleep deprivation is not! Stay strong!

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S.K.

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Greetings to you,

Here are some suggestions: 1) Even though she doesn't have an earache I would still purchase that instrument used to look inside the ear (I forgot the name). You can purchase this at a CVS or Walgreens pharmacy. You should get into the habit of looking into her ears yourself. 2) Have you changed anything around in her room lately, like the dresser or her bed? If so, I suggest you put everything back in it's original position or on the flipside, change her bed to a better position in the room. 3) When's the last time she had a gooooood bowel movement. You could mix a little prune juice in her apple juice with a little water. Try rubbing (clockwise) her tummy with slight pressure for 10 minutes before you put her on the potty. You can also lie her down on her back, take her ankles in each hand bend her knees towards her chest a couple of times and alternate this between the stomach rubs. This will help facilitate a more complete movement. And make it a point to increase her intake of bananas, oranges, and dark leafy vegetables. If you don't have time to wait for the prune juice to work, purchase a baby enema baloon. Fill it with some lukewarm water and add a capful of johnson's baby shampoo. Put her across your knee and proceed slowly. Do a little at a time. Be sure to massage her belly before you do the enema. Afterwards, give her a warm bath and rub her down with a warmed oil of your choice. This alone worked like a MIRACLE for my son.

Be Well,
S.

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C.B.

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These are things that worked for us, they may help you. Our oldest daughter would stay in her room but would not go to sleep untill 10 or 11 at night.So, I stoped giving her an afernoon nap [she was 2]. Some days she would fall asleep on the sofa. This worked well for her. My youngest daughter would always just get up or sometimes lay and kick and scream.
We had two night lights in her room, so we told her if she got up we would take 1 night light out. If she got up again we would take the other 1 out. She did not like it dark in her room at all. We had to do this for a few days and then off and for awhile. This worked for her. Each child is different, and will respond differenty to things you just have to find the right combination of things to work for you. Good luck.

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C.

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i'm sorry to hear that you are having a tough time. it sounds like she is having some separation anxiety...on top of the 'normal' toddler 'making my parents life difficult'...ha ha.

does she have a nightlight in her room? a lovey to sleep with? these might help.

you can also trying sitting on a chair in her room while she falls asleep. every few nights, move the chair closer to the door...it might take a few weeks, but eventually, you can have the chair outside her door so she is going to sleep on her own.

if she doesn't have a lovey, maybe go to the store and let her pick out a special 'going to bed' bear or other stuffed animal. maybe if she picks it out, she'll feel 'safe'. only let her have the bear when she is going to sleep. also, maybe try starting the bedtime routine a little earlier...so she is in bed by 7 or 7:30...this might help her catch up on a little sleep.

i know it's a vicious cycle...they don't nap...so they are crnaky...so they don't sleep well at night...and it goes on and on. for an almost 2yo, crying it out is going to be tough...because she's a lot more aware and stubborn than a younger baby.

I swear by Weissbluth's Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child. It's a great book.

I hope you find something that works! Please feel free to email me! ____@____.com

C.

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K.B.

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L.,

It sounds like things are pretty rough!! I can only give suggestions of things that might work since I did not experience this before. We did experience our daughter getting up and coming in to our room quite often at that age. First, I would try some soft music. If you have a small CD player that you could put in her room and play some lullabyes on, that might help. 2nd, I would lay with her and simply cuddle her for about 15-20 minutes. Tell her this is her and Mommy's special cuddle time. Make a big, positive deal of having that time together. If Daddy is available, trade off and let him have a couple of nights. I have a great lullabye CD on my website if you are interested...check out balterbaby.com.

Our daughter has listened to music since she was about 12-14 months old and it seems to really calm her down. Another thing you may try is warm milk. Tell her she can have a "special drink" as long as she agrees that after the drink is finished, then it is time to go to sleep. A little warm milk really does calm one down. You may even want to set up a special night where she sleeps with Mom and Dad (ie: Friday nights) if she earns it by going to sleep in her bed on time the other 4 nights. This is what we did with our daughter and it has worked out great. She loves the "family night" on Fridays and knows she must go to bed in her bed on time the other nights!! I hope this helps.

K.
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B.L.

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I perplexed by this. Maybe try a night light, soft music, lay in the bed with her (if she has a toddler one), but dont talk or respond to any playing etc. If that doesnt work, dont give her any attention with the crying or she will keep doing it because she knows she's getting attentions from the behavior.my child used to cry and I would just not go in there. I made sure she had a paci, drink and blankets and she cried herself to sleep (the crying tuckers them out more too). Now she goes to bed first time i put her down, no problem and no crying!
Also try to get some things you know calm her, like a blankie, stuffed animal and try to reissue her. And if that still doesnt work, I hate to say it, but I would dose her with some medicine to get myself some sleep! (ok don't really do that, but we can dream about it!) Good luck.

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M.H.

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HI L.,
I was 33 with my first one too...kudos! It sounds like you are doing everything right at bedtime. We could get real deep here but have you thought about just letting her sleep with you until she gets over this fear. If , of course you really think she's scared. Fear is overwhelming for an adult, just think how a 22 month old processes it. Both my girls slept with us occasionally and they now have normal healthy sleeping habits.
Also look around her room and see if anything could be making shadows on the walls at night that could be seen as scary. It may be as simple as a night light if you haven't tried that yet. I know that a lot of people say that night lights aren't healthy for the eyes but neither is lack of sleep.

Sorry I can't waive a magic wand for you!

M.

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