Getting 3 1/2 YO off the Nap and Night Time Pull-ups

Updated on September 23, 2010
R.G. asks from Montgomery, IL
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Hi Moms. I need your advice! We have been potty training for about 6 months with my DD. She is at the point where she really does not have anymore accidents with #1 (pee). She asks to go to the bathroom or we take her there if it has been awhile since she has gone. The problem is, we have used a Pull-up during naptimes and overnight. After naptime, or in the morning, her Pull-Up is usually pretty soaked. She does not get many liquids before sleeping time (only during lunch and at dinnertime). I have attempted to let her try napping without a Pull-Up and testing out how this goes. Usually, she will wet the bed.
The other issue she has is that we have had her on Miralax for a couple of weeks (Ped's advice). She was holding her BM for sometimes 4 days and then it was difficult for her to go and painful. This would then start another cycle of her holding it again for a few days. SO, she really has only gone #2 on the potty a handful of times. We have tried sitting her down to watch a movie and getting a reward if she goes. She reluctantly will sit down and usually will still not go. Almost on a daily basis, she waits until I am indisposed with something else and she will hide and go #2 in her pants. SInce the Miralax, it is usually pretty runny poop.
My question is...How do I encourage her to not go during naptime and bedtime? Also, how do we get her to go #2 on the potty. I am really frustrated. She will be 4 YO in Feb.!

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Thank you so much Moms for all the helpful tips and support. It's nice to know that I am not alone! I will just wait this one out and hopefully have some good news to report sooner than later!

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N.P.

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nap and nighttime dryness is NOT a thing you can teach. It is totally dependent on a chemical in their body telling them not to pee or making them wake up. Until they get that chemical, it won't happen. So do pull ups or diapers at night and nap and don't worry about it.

That said, if they poop in the diaper I give them a warning then tell them it's not allowed anymore. Works.

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A.S.

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My son is 3-1/2 and while he's dry during naps and most nights, it's not consistent enough for me to give up pull-ups. He'll go through very long stretches of being dry, then be wet several mornings in a row. The pediatrician gave us these milestones for potty: pee by 3, poop by 4 and dry overnight by 5. You didn't specify in your post, but I'm assuming you're using overnight pull-ups? If you're not using them for naps, definitely switch to overnights because the regular ones are not very absorbent. If he asks, my son gets very little water right before bed and we also put him on the potty right before bed. He recently started getting up in the middle of the night to pee, so your daughter maybe your daughter will start getting up, too. Good luck!

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D.V.

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Those PullUPS are a "bain" to potty training for all mothers.
She is never uncomforatable, and she doesn't understand.
Regarding #1. She is old enough to be trained. She has muscles that can hold her urine, but she doesn't understand what you are talking about. She never feels the wet. Put her in Training Cotton pants during the day.
She'll start feeling how icky being wet feels. After a few days, when she is sleeping, the icky feeling of wet will wake her up.

#2, diet is King. More fruits and veggies, less dairy and sugar....

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D.M.

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My daughter will be 4 in October. She still wears a pull up at night and wakes up wet EVERY am. Talked w/ the ped and was advised that some kids don't establish the ability (physically) to recognize the need to get up and pee when sleeping.... and you can't change that. I was told to just wait until she begins to wake up drier and then begin the night time training. Many kids aren't dry at night until 5 or 6.

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C.M.

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Hi R., I just have to add I have 3 children & only my middle child was in pull-ups until she was 8...UGH... but in looking back I would truly say Thank you to whom ever invented them. She couldn't stand it either poor child, but she couldn't help it either. It will pass one day.

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M.K.

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I don't have an answer for you, but I want you to know that you are not alone. My DD is going to be 5 this year, and she still wears the Good Nites pullups to bed. I have also talked to her pediatrician about it, and like a previous poster stated, she just doesn't have the ability to wake up before peeing. Her body just isn't mature enough. I have friends whose kiddos are older than my daughter and still wearing pullups to bed. They will all be fine before they go to college, so I don't stress about it. Try not to stress yourself out or her out. It will all happen in due time.

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J.W.

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Don't worry! Making it through the night (and naptime) dry is a developmental milestone that every child hits at different ages. Some earlier, some later. Just keep doing what you're doing and give her positive reinforcement when she does wake up dry - make a huge deal :) - and eventually it will happen!

PS- I can relate to your stories of your daughter holding it in with BM's. My daughter did that too, after experiencing painful poops! Good luck!

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J.C.

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If they are wet, they are wet. She is not ready yet for sleeping and not wetting herself. Wait until she can go a week without wetting and them take away the pull ups. But be sure to throw down a chuck or something on top of the sheet.

As for the poo - you just need to keep trying and encouraging. Do you bring her in the bathroom with you and let her see? Also, are you giving her plenty of attention - looks like she is trying to make you notice her. When she does go in her pants, try not to be angry - but say - wow, a poop. Mommy wants you to do it in the toilet next time. Tell me and I will come with you and then we can do a craft together (or something that she likes).

3 year olds are tough. 4 is better. Really.

H.S.

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I had no idea that I would EVER have a 5 year old in a pull up at night, but I do. She has been daytime potty trained for 2 years, but her morning pull up is soaked. Sometimes so soaked that she has damp jammies. We came to the conclusion that it has nothing to do with what she drinks. We have given my daughter nothing to drink after we eat dinner. Not a sip of water after say 6pm. Peeing at 9pm right before laying down to bed, and still soaked. We have researched it and it has to do with when their body is ready. It is also my understanding that is is very normal and their are kids in night time pants until the age of 8.

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M.A.

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Keep using the pull-ups during naps and over-night. She's obviously not ready and waking up wet only causes more fear and anxiety and a sense of failure. Plus, it makes more work for you with all the washing. Just let that go until she starts waking up dry on her own. This can take a looooong time for some kids and that's normal. As for the poop, you might have to go big with the prizes. Wrap them up and put them on the bathroom counter where she can see them, but she can only get them for poops. And you might have to keep it up for a couple of weeks. She seems to have control over her BMs but has an aversion to the potty. Please don't punish her for accidents or take away toys or scold or anything like that. Do not shame her. Any anxiety will only make things much, much worse and take longer to resolve. Remember that these are body and control issues, and it's important to her sense of self to build confidence and faith in her body. You can fix the poop thing pretty easily, but you might have to wait on the sleep.

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M.M.

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Same deal for us....my DD will be 5 in November and still has the soaking wet pull-ups in the AM. We try not to make a big deal about it since it's her body not her "will" making it happen.

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K.A.

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I don't have an answer for you as I am in the same boat with my son. He still wakes up wet overnight. Naps are getting better, but I'm sure it will take some time before he wakes up dry. You might want to search on your question. I thought I read on here last week that it usually doesn't start to happen until they are 5 or 6. I don't think their bodies are quite ready before then. But hey....if you figure it out, let us all know :)

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R.K.

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You can't encourage her not to have accidents at naptime and bedtime. this is something that will happen when her body is ready. She either has to be able to recognize that she has a full bladder and get up and go to the bathroom during the night or be capable of holding it that long. Having accidents during sleep is perfectly normal she could out grow it soon or it could lat until she's 8 or even older. As for pooping on the potty maybe try a reward system.

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T.B.

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It often takes longer to get trained for nighttime and naptime. It's probably best to keep using the pullups until they are dry most of the time. For some kids, they're not totally trained at night until they're seven. It's a physical thing and not usually anything to worry about.

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