Friend Wants to Live at a Nudist Camp with Her 6 Yr Old Daughter!

Updated on January 05, 2013
L.U. asks from Kirkland, WA
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AAAHHHHH....so my question will probably be all over the place, but here goes nothing...
My friend has a six year old daughter and she is a single mother. The father has NOTHING to do with them. She was living in Hawaii since her daughter was less than a year old (she is from Hawaii) up until about 6months ago. The whole time that her daughter has been alive she has been a naked child. Seriously. Took her to the store, naked. Go to the library, naked. Play at the beach, naked. Ride in the car, naked. EVERYWHERE! And, her daughter is a "plays with herself" kind of kid. I don't mean to be crude at all, but seeing as she is naked all the time, she has easy access to explore.
She has recently moved back over here, to Idaho, to live with her mom and sister. Her sister is 19ish and always has her friends to the house. Who's naked? the 6 year old.
Her mom doesn't see anything wrong with it! AND she has decided that she wants to live in the "commune" about an hour or so away from her mom, that is a NUDIST camp! WITH HER 6 YEAR OLD!! I can't get over it and it kind of makes me sick!
My friends mother is furious, my other friend and I are quite mad, and my other friend is the one that is really close to her. She had a "fierce" conversation with the wacko friend, and she just doesn't get it. She doesn't want her daughter to grow up feeling ashamed of her body and thinks this commune will be great for her to be comfortable with nakedness. I think it's just a good hiding place for one or two sexual predetors to be hanging out looking for naked little boys and girls.
She is under the delusion that they do background checks, but they also have everyone pool there money for the common good of the commune.
Am I the nut? I think something is seriously wrong here, and my other good friend wants to call CPS but we don't even know if we have a case? Anyone out there know? Anything we can do?
Sorry it's so long and rambling! :)

JUST HAD TO ADD - I have no problem with nudity. I walk around my own house just fine, and my boys are fine with their naked bodies. HOWEVER, if I had some 18-19 year old girls in my house, and my son was busy materbating...that would be a problem. I would not take my son to a camp where a bunch of other naked men and women are walking around. Who is protecting the 6 year old?

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A.P.

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i was a preschool teacher as i was going through college and was to teach i was required to be accredited, i also was a crisis counselor for women who were abused...this to me is truly disturbing, she is doing her daugher NO favors putting her on display like this in environments where everyone else, including her own mother, is clothed! her job as a mother is to protect her daughter and teach her about the social world we live in. this to me is neglect for her daughter's right to privacy and self. she is too young to know to discern between what is right and wrong and what she is to be comfortable with and what she is not comfortable with as her mother has never offered her the education of these feelings. this borders on exploitative and abusive. she is unknowingly humiliating her daughter daily and she needs to be socialized properly, this is the equivalent of being raised by wolves, only, instead of being in the wild where this type of naturalism would go unnoticed, she is doing it in a social and public setting. perhaps the nudist colony would be best as she would not be so singled out. but personally i am against the whole thing entirely. she is too young and needs to be old enough to make her own decisions before a specific lifestyle is put upon her without her opinion. and no, six is not old enough to have your own opinion as to whether or not you want to live on a nudist colony! i will also add, my brother is a nudist and his mother took him to the nudist colony that she frequented when he was around six or so and he told me that it did make him rather uncomfortable and he was old enough to know that this was not how his friends spent their weekends and he did say it was strange for him, and that is not even her putting him in social situations where everyone else was clothed! and he does have many issues with his mother today, he is 42. i am a 40 year old married mother of a 7 mo old daughter. best of luck talking to her, this story made me so sad and angry for this little girl. i have spent way too much time counseling abused women to know where this is going to end up and it makes me so incredibly sad to hear about her upbringing, or lack thereof.

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J.C.

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God help us all. First - YOU ARE NOT CRAZY. Oh, my no ( I am a retired special ed teacher - and this childs' environment and socialization is sick, sick, sick.)

You do NOT need to ''''know'''' that there is a case to call CPS - you call'em and ask for information and explain the issue - and they will help YOU decide what to do from there---.

Poor little girl--- how in Heaven is she supposed to have any safety? - How is she supposed to respond to the first pedophile that walks into her environment with a nice present and a ''''new game''' - since she has NO sense that her body is special and belongs to HER -- she has been robbed of a sense of privacy that every child has as a God-given birth-right- ( sorry- will get off my soap box - but CRIMINENTLY.

Blessings for caring enough to do something- most anything you could do - even go to the police for information - would be a plus -- anything -

We are with you on this-

Blessings,
old Mom
aka- J.

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A.E.

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Yikes!!!
I understand your concern completely. I think it's sad that you are more concerned about this child's potential safety than the babe's mother.
That said, I would look into rules of living in these places, and approach your friend more calmly, if you can. She sounds like people I've known who were less than stable. Maybe condoning the lifestyle will make it less appealing? Read up on it and profess your newfound amazement with the human body and declare clothing the enemy?!
Sorry...but this IS her child, and you need to ask yourself if your friend has been a good mother. Kid is fed, not clothed, but developmentally sound? If you have such big doubts about this woman, consider talking anonymously with the school district, they might know how to funnel the info into the proper channels.
Take care!
A.

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M.B.

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L.,

Honestly, I don't see how it's any of your business. You may not agree with the choices the mother of the 6 year old is making, but it's her life, not yours.

Having lived in Europe for nearly 3 years, Americans have a huge issue with nudity; they can't handle it. In my opinion there is way too much stigma on the nude body that the American mind-set needs to get over.

If this is the wrong choice for this mother and her little girl all you can hope for is that the mother realizes this before anything bad happens, if it does.

Melissa

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L.M.

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First of all, don't you have your own life to worry about?

Communes are actually one of the safest place for this child as there are always people around, as opposed to suburbia where kids are outside alone a lot. Secondly, studies galore have shown that like all other sexual predators pederasts prefer children clothed as it adds to the arousal.

thirdly, There is nothing wrong with nudist communes. The people that live there are normal people like you and me. Is there a chance there is a predator among them? Sure, just like on any preschool, playground or office building anywhere in the world.

As for the kid being naked all the time in the regular world, yes this can be a problem, especially in school. But that's for that mother to decide.

As for who protects the six year old, she will be safer in that commune than she is outside it.

My advice to you, sit down, relax and worry about your own life.

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