Attitude Not Gratitude from My 41/2 Yr Old

Updated on October 01, 2010
K.R. asks from Encinitas, CA
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My 41/2 year old daughter is a great kid she is very sweet however everyday this last month she has been complaining all the time about things I am unable to get her or she is unable to have in any given moment. I don't spoil her and get her things every time we go out to shop for household stuff etc. She does have a lot of things she likes and her own area in the house to be creative. In our home we have never had cable so the way we watch something on TV is from renting DVDs from the library or DVDs that we have bought, so she doesn't have commercial influence. Last week we went to a baseball game with her friend and the friends parent, the whole time she was hungry or wanting to go and would not stop with complaining or not getting enough food even when she had plenty. My daughter likes baseball so I know it was not that. She did not have to sit still and had a lot of control so I knew it wasn't a control issue. I knew she was having fun but it was like she couldn't help herself from complaining. I'm not a complainer but her grandma is my mom and I'm wondering if it is rubbing on to my daughter, if it is what then?

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S.H.

answers from Honolulu on

***Adding and clarifying:
"Talk Story" which I mentioned below... is a regional slang term of where I live. It means simply, to chat or shoot the breeze... with your child. Just talking about anything... and for me, I let my child take the lead in talking story.... so that she can learn 'conversation' skills AND also express herself and ANY thoughts/questions she has and talking about her day/her life. I also, tell her stories about myself as a child, which my girl loves to hear. I don't use this 'talk story' time for nagging/lecturing/scolding or 'correcting' my child. It is just a time to 'bond' and talk story... openly. About anything. Mostly so my girl can express openly her thoughts or ideas or dreams.... AND a side benefit of it all... is that it helps to form a 'relationship' with your child... and the child learns that they CAN talk... to you. Not just being at the end of a point or a lecture or scolding.
My girl LOVES doing this... and talking story.
I also, like talking story with elderly people... it is really interesting and they tell you SO much... and it is a real 'sharing' between people.
That is also the point of "talking story"... that it is a "sharing" between 2 people... or a group of people... in a warm positive way
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Its her age phase....

The book "Have A New Kid By Friday" is good and not punitive nor derogatory.
Also the book "Your 4 Year Old" from Amazon.

Kids this age, don't automatically "know" how to handle emotions... so just guide her. Teach her HOW to say things, even if good or bad. Teach her how to 'see' things differently...
Teach her how to handle disappointment or irritations....
Kids this age, need to learn HOW to navigate their emotions, even complaints.
Talk 'with' her.... let her vent... and talk story about her 'life.' My daughter LOVES when I talk story with her... letting her lead the conversation... and she feels better that way. That I 'hear' her and not nagging or lecturing her. Its a way for her to talk about her frustrations or irks or what not... venting. Even kids need to do that. Safely.

all the best,
Susan

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M.R.

answers from Columbus on

It may not need to rub off, my middle daughter would not remember my MIL, she died when my daughter was 18 months, but she is just like her. She eats like her, stands like her, says things that she would say, it is who she is.

Just keep applying your dicipline and stand your ground about a respectful attitude. Some things are hard wired, like tempement, and there is not too much you can do about it.

M.

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J.D.

answers from Los Angeles on

Can you be more specific with your complaints about your daughter's complaints? Thanks!..Yah..you are prob. spot on.. it must be the grandmas fault....your daughter is griping to you over this & that.. .Obviously! LOL.

OK on a more serious note..maybe your daughter just needs to interact with you & this is how she is doing so..(?)

When I had children in my first grade classroom who had complaints. in their PA and .instead of trying to fix their issues..I use to say. to them.. Gosh ..I am going to think on all you have said and will get back to you later..Thanks for sharing this with me ! Many times over,they moved on to new issues and felt better.. so they complained less! Some humans need more validation than others..JMHO!

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H.W.

answers from Portland on

I like Susan's suggestions of open-ended conversations. Here are some other things that come to mind:

What to do when whining (especially unproductive whining) starts? I just wrote up a blog post on this. Much of this depends on our response. One technique I use, when appropriate, is to write down the "I wants" on a big list. I don't counter with reasons why the child can't have it or my opinions on their choices, I just sit and take dictation. Sometimes, kids just need to have a place to put the "I want" thought down and with some children, this helps them move on. They feel listened to, and all you need to say is "Let me think about this for a while..." and you take it from there. This might mean picking one thing off the list every couple of weeks. Or it might look like parsing down the list to come up with a couple options that work and choosing one to start. "The List" and "Let Me Think" buy us some time so that we know what we adults want to do before re-entering the conversation.

When the whining starts/persists after I've been clear with my "no, not now", a little check-in may be in order. I often ask: "Do you think that if you keep asking me about this, I will change my mind?" Many children have answered a convinced "YES!" to this question. Now comes the reality-check. "I've been pretty clear with my answer. (Repeat your answer once more. ie-- "we will have ice cream tomorrow" or "we are staying until the end of the ninth inning") and I'm all done talking about this with you. You may talk about it, but I'm done." And then actively ignore the child. That is to say, you are keeping an ear out for her conversation to change to something more agreeable, and when she is able to move past the whining, you do too. Start up a more pleasant, distracting conversation and if it reverts back to whining, just restate the "I'm finished talking about this" only once. I like this method because it gives the child limits without forcing them not to talk about it...You stay consistent, and over continued consistent use, the child will learn that Mom means what she says the first time. It also gives a social context for whining and complaining... no one really likes to give a lot of attention to whiners and complainers.

The ultimate goal of the above techniques (I call them my "pat answers") is to give the undesired behavior very little attention. Often, our kids get us into endless 'reasoning' with them, which often doesn't hold much value other than our Getting Sucked In, until both parties are engaged and miserable. Disengaging gives us more authority and gives them clear boundaries that we aren't going to do *That Dance* with them. One can only argue with no one for so long, and the same goes for whining with no audience. I have had tantrums occasionally emerge in a few instances, however, it's my belief that the children in question were kind of on their way to a tantrum long before our interaction. (Tired or emotionally exhausted and this just seemed to be the last straw.) In the case you were describing, where your daughter's needs had been met, having boundaries around how much you are going to be nagged is appropriate.

You had mentioned gratitude, and I was also wondering if your daughter has opportunities to make positive contributions around the house. Sometimes, this can help to change the perspective a little from MeMeMe to Us. At her age, she can help fold towels, some of her own clothes, make "deliveries" of laundry to their appropriate rooms or drawers. She can help with washing/putting away silverware and setting/clearing the table. She can help feed and care for a pet. She can do some light housework with you, so that if you are say, scrubbing the toilet in the bathroom, she can use a sponge and soap to give the sink a wash, or wipe down the side of the tub or cupboards. She can be a helper at the store, bagging up produce as you shop, counting out how many cans of food you need, carrying boxes to the cart and then help unpack at home. You aren't going for mastery here, but for participation, so it mightn't be perfect, but she gets to feel good about helping with some 'grown up' stuff. And don't link toys or allowance to this at her age-- it's very fuzzy thinking, that. It's morally good for youngsters to experience themselves as helpful.

I hope that you can find an idea or two here that will work for you. I'll be keeping my eyes open to see what other insights other moms have. Best wishes-- this is a tough age!

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S.F.

answers from Los Angeles on

Seems to me that since she complains continually about wanting things she has anyway, she may be using this as a means of 'attention getting'. Take the baseball game for instance. you are with her, sitting and watching the game ... she has plenty to eat. Yet she complains to you that she wants to have more food, and to leave. Think about it ... your attention was on the game, not her. When you are shopping, your attention is on locating your purchases, not her.

Perhaps when you are with her watching a game, you could engage her to actively watch the game, IE; talk about the batter, or the men running bases or who caught the ball. Perhaps you were chatting with a friend instead of watching the game yourself. Maybe when your attention to the game lapsed, so did your daughters.

In the store you could engage your daughter in 'helping' mommy find items on her list. She is old enough to begin teaching about 'marketing'. This could hold her attention so she doesn't get bored and start asking for things in order to get attention.

When children are little, they still have the mindset that the whole world is 'all about me'. It seems to be that your daughter has matured to the point that you can start teaching her that it is not.

Good luck :-)

G.M.

answers from Los Angeles on

Mama, You are taking her behavior waaaaay too personally! SHE'S 4!
Four year olds have a brand new, very rough collection of social skills that they are just exercising. My 4 y.o. son was complaining and screaming and whining and crying at bathtime EVERY night. I started out wanting to tear my hair out and was getting increasingly impatient with him until I watched my husband reacting just like me and was able to see how silly it looked. WE CAN'T OUTWIT A 4 YEAR OLD????? Come on!!!
I whipped up a little chart for my son (in Excel) and each night he gets stars next to the things he was able to accomplish throughout that day. One of our listed items is "bathe without complaining" which he DOES! every night now. 25 stars (takes about a week) and he gets something nice, which I'd have normally done for him anyway, like go to the pumpkin patch with the rides. I am out nothing but maybe a little mental energy. Certainly not the amount of mental energy that he used to ROB from me with those outbursts. Here's what I chose to focus on this week and I alter the list each week, as I see where he needs improvement. Some of these are gimmes, in that he loves to brush his teeth and usually says please and thank you so he is INSURED at least those, even on a very bad day.
Clean up
Brush your teeth
Say please and thank you
Bathe without complaining
Do as you're asked to do
Eat your dinner
Behave yourself

Good luck, and try not to let her get to you! :) My mom tells me next year is better.

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M.K.

answers from San Diego on

You got some good suggestions already for how to put some boundaries around the whining. I would also suggest, if you are not already, adding time in your day for gratitude.

We do it through prayer at dinner and/or bedtime, but it could just be a conversation about what you are thankful for that day. I do it too, so that they hear examples of things I am grateful for. And, I often find it insightful to hear the things that my little ones were happy and thankful for that day that might not have come up in coversation any other way.

We also play "High-Low" at dinner a lot. Anyone who wants to can share something that they thought was good and/or something they didn't like. Maybe that would also give your daughter a designated chance to air a gripe from the day, balanced with her (or other family members') good things?

Good luck!

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