Advice on Parenting with Controlling Father?

Updated on January 28, 2010
J. asks from Nashville, TN
12 answers

I have two beautiful sons (13 & 14 years old) from my first marriage. My ex-husband was very abusive emotionally, verbally and sometimes physically. The county we lived in seems to side with Dad's alot, and in the end he was granted custody of our two boys.
Although I have standard visitation, we have managed to build a beautiful life together, and our sons have big dreams for their lives. The boys and I are active in church and have lots of friends and a wonderful family. Most of our family lives out of state, so we travel a good bit when the boys are visiting so they cen stay connected to everyone. I remarried last year, and we now have a beautiful daughter. The boys love her so much, and they are thrilled to have my husband and his family in their life. They do not enjoy much extended family on their father's side. In recent months their father has been discouraging them to see me, and finally Mother's day weekend they told me I had never been a mother to them and they didn't want to come see me for Mother's Day. A series of events lead to the boys being charged with an unruly petition. As a result their father filed a restraining order against me. This restraining order should have been heard within days of its issue (and summarily dismissed), but we went to mediation and worked out a agreement. However, he didn't follow through with the agreement, and so we back to the divorce court. The divorce court won't do anything until the matters in the Juvenile court are resolved. We went to Juvenile court yesterday, and the DA said that usually on unruly petitions, the boys speak with youth services, then they speak with the parents, then something is worked out (I guess to retire or dismiss the matter). However in this matter my ex-husband had his lawyer their on his behalf, and through discussions, they wanted the judge to hear this case. As we went before the Judge, once he determined they wanted to move forward, he asked the boys if they wanted a hearing or if they wanted to enter a plea (their Dad urged them to ask for a hearing) so they asked for a hearing.

During the course of the Judge's questions, I found out my oldest son is not enrolled in the school he used to be in, that his father has put him in a private, unaccredited, christian school.

We are set to go back in a few weeks. I haven't been able to have any contact with our sons since April 28th, and I haven't enjoyed a visit with them since March.

I've always been great with people, and I actually work well with crisis situations. However it seems when I get into court about our sons, I'm emotional. You can see that I'm upset. I try to explain what led up to situation. I have an excellent attorney, however my ex seems to know just enough about the system that he knows how to drage things out. He justified his behavior to me several months ago because "he had spoken to an officer of the court".

I found out last night, my ex intends to move to Michigan to live with his girlfriend (I think they will get married?). She has three kids, and she has recently worked things out so her children don't have to see their father anymore.

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So What Happened?

Well I can't believe it's been about two years now since I first posted this! Well one thing is constant- my faith. The other thing that is constant is a controlling partner's behavior. They never change. The boys are good and while I can't hold them and hug on them like I used to, I am their Mama and that's all that matters. They look to me and my husband for direction and support. I am amazed at how much they try to manage on their own. Their Dad is sooo controlling it's stifling. I feel sorry for them, but I try to let them have the freedom a teen needs to develop their own sense of self-worth to feel independent and capable of caring for themselves. They adore their little sister, and now we're expecting angain any minute! I did hire an attorney, na dshe is still handling things, but I must tell you it's a very expensive route. Unfortunately there isn't much of an option when you're dealing with an uncooperative parent. He refuses to coomunicate and it's exhausting when it comes to visitation schedules. It's been since 1999 that we were divorced and I'm STILL trying to get my portion of the settlement (retirement). Hopefully that will happen in the next few months. Thank you for all your prayers and encouragement. GOD BLESS!

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V.W.

answers from Nashville on

Wow, that's tough. Hire the best lawyer you can afford. Lean on your husband for support. We sometimes have to remind our husbands that we need them. Take one day at a time and stay positive, have the attitude that you will get them back because you are a fit mother and love them. If you do get visitation, try not to talk about their father at all, don't stoop down to his level, tell them that you love them all the time. Good luck, I will pray for you.

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B.M.

answers from Gadsden on

Hi,J.,
You are in a difficult position. I am a Gadsden-based attorney and wonder if your case is being heard in Etowah County. If so, I may have some insights if you don't mind telling me who your ex's attorney is and who the judge is-- some of these folks have "sweetheart" deals and if so, you are dealing with a political problem rather than a legal one. As for the move to Michigan, if you divorced recently, you are covered by the new law in Alabama which will not allow him to move more than sixty miles away without your consent or a hearing in which you object. I certainly won't give legal advice to a person who has a wonderful lawyer and I'm sure you do. However, I can provide some political insight if you want me to do so.
Prayers for you and your boys,

B.

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L.L.

answers from Nashville on

J.,

I have worked for a child custody attorney for years and I would suggest that you get a good attorney and fight your ex. Unless there is something that he has against you that you didn't mention it sounds like you are a good mother and that you love your boys. You need to fight for your rights and let those boys know that you love them and you are fighting for them. I don't know where you are exactly located or what kind of money you have but you can call the local Bar Association and tell them that you need a child custody attorney and you can also ask about a Pro Bono attorney if you don't make a whole lot.

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C.B.

answers from Atlanta on

Joanna--

My advice is to pray. In a situation such as this just pray. Jesus has been the answer to all of your other problems he will answer this one. I will take you and your family up and in prayer and I know everything will work themselves out.

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L.B.

answers from Atlanta on

Oh my god, honey... What a horrible situation you are in. My sister has a very similar situation to yours.... She was married in the state of florida and has a 7 year old son with her ex. She is now remarried to a wonderful man here in Georgia. He is the father that my nephew never had.
His biological father was abusive in the very same way that your ex is.... he is currently $23,000 behind in child support, my sister had a horrible custody battle and divorce... He was only allowed supervised visits by the court and there was eventually a restraining order against him... He only showed up for visits for less than a year and then went AWOL for about one year.... Then for a few years he would show up at their home in Florida and make threats and make threatening phone calls, etc... He was never arrested for violating his restraining order, never consequenced for his lack of child support payments, etc... and after a 4 years... the devil reared his ugly head in Georgia.... Now he has been given supervised visitation back and that lasted only 6 months and now he has UNsupervised visitation starting next month.... it's scary... He has threatened to take my sister back to court for full custody and bring his son back to FLorida....
It's been a nightmare.....

I highly recommend you put a fire under your lawyer or get a new one... also - do some research online for advocacy groups for women in your situation.... I will be doing that with my sister soon.... I wish you luck - you'll need it...

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R.J.

answers from Denver on

Wow I am currently in this same type of situation, the courts are slow, they don't believe anything that I or my lawyer say, the hearings get delayed or rescheduled and it has been very expensive. It has been over two years. I have tried to stay in contact with my kids but my ex-husband cancels or delays scheduled visitations. Because of this my 14year old son thinks that I abandoned him and his grandparents are influencing that opinion. My 16year old daughter does not believe them and I have maintained contact with her.

Things have recently changed because my ex has been charged with sexual misconduct toward my daughter and I am now trying to get sole custody, I have a great lawyer who feels that I will be able to get custody but I have strong reservation against the MI court system. The grandparents have ostracized my daughter and are trying to adopt my son.

So it has been a difficult couple of years and I am hoping for the best, despite the odds.

Thank you for posting it really helps knowing that there are other woman who have or are going through the same custody issues. My faith has been shaken over the years but it has been renewed just knowing that I am not alone.

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L.

answers from Huntsville on

J. that is the saddest thing that could happen to a mother... I wish you all the luck in the world. I think maybe you should use the media for help. I would put pressure on everyone concerned. That always gets the courts attention. You are not getting a fair shake. I'm so sorry for that, I have 3 beautiful kids and I just could not imagine your pain.. Lots of Luck and I will pray for your family.. Trust in God and this will work out. L.

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E.I.

answers from Dothan on

Hello J.!

My thoughts and prayers are with you in this horrible situation. However, I wanted to tell you, in some states, because your boys are 13 and 14, the courts are sometimes willing to listen to what the boys would want, as long as both situations they would live in would be a safe loving environment. I have a friend who's daughter opted out of some of her visitation with her father, because she turned 13 and she was missing out on so much during the summer, and the court allowed her to do so whether the father wanted it or not. Talk to your lawyer about having the judge re-look the entire situation. If indeed the father is planning to move, this move could upset their lives and cause emotional stress.

Regarding your husband's lawyer on the boys behalf, I believe your boys have the right to speak through both of your lawyers or a youth service. This sounds fishy to me...for lack of better words. It seems they are not being represented fairly if not heard on both sides. Talk to the boys about what they want to do. And then talk to your lawyer.

Have you thought about seeing a family conseler with your boys and new family? Not dad? These things look good to a family court. And they can help you be closer with your sons, finding out where they really want to be and knowing you love them. The conseler can also help them to learn to speak up for themselves, AGAINST the controlling dad, if need be. Knowing they have a right to say what they want and don't want. And knowing they will be safe with YOU whatever their feelings are.

Good luck. My prayers are with you. Take care and keep your head held high!

Lee

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E.D.

answers from Hattiesburg on

I agree you need to fight for them. Make sure they know that they love you. I'm from a broken home. The thing I remember is my dad talking bad about my mom and I hated it. I'm so close to my mom now b/c she never talked bad in return. You should not stoop down to your ex-husbands level be the bigger person and just fight for your kids and love them with all your heart.

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G.D.

answers from Memphis on

Hello J.,
I can't say that my situation is the same but I do have a very controlling ex husband. I am now remarried and have a daughter with my husband today. My two sons who are from their father are manipulated every time they go and see their father since they were very small. My oldest son is now 13 and is living with his father b/c he got into drugs, defiance, etc. I think he has always starved for his father's attention. I just want you to know I don't have any answers for you and I wish so badly I did. I wish I had answers for myself. My son now is very distant from me. He refuses to come home on his weekends with me, and he doesn't speak to me on the phone. I try to go and see him and talk to him and he doesn't even look at me. I am sure his father has told him he doesn't have to see me ever again. I just want you to know that I think as long as you keep letting those boys know that you love them and you are always there for them no matter what then thats all you can do. Don't ever give up the fight. I know you probably feel the same way I do. I go and see him and I think why do I do this to myself? I end up crying all the time like I am mourning the loss of someone. I try to be strong for my daughter and other son I have at home. Its been a struggle and will continue to be one for the both of us I am sure. Just know that you are in my prayers and I hope that things work out for you and you can finally build up the relationship you had with your boys before. I think they are at a weird age anyway that is very defiant. Please know that there are others out there praying for you. Please keep me posted.

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B.A.

answers from Chattanooga on

J.,
We have a family going through a divorce/ child custody battle in our church and it can get ugly. I will pray for you and your family! Lean on God, He will bring you through this. It may seem like He's not there, but He is. One day you may be able to help others through similar situations!

B.

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S.

answers from Chattanooga on

J.,

My heart goes out to you. I have had a tough battle in court regarding my ex as well.

Unfortunately the only advice I can give you is this...

1. Check your parenting plan. If he intends to move he has to follow a certain procedure to do that. Also if you check your state laws regarding custody and visitation, it should also have the procedures regarding this. In TN, where I live the custodial parent has to send notice by certified mail 90 days prior to moving. During this time, you have the option of taking him to court if you contest the move.

2. Also, in TN Judge's usually frown upon having member's of the opposite sex staying overnight while the children are present.

Just a couple of things to speak to your attorney about. Hope this helps,
S. E.

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