7 Yo Keeps Getting up at Night

Updated on April 01, 2011
A.R. asks from Keller, TX
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My 7 year old daughter wakes several times a night. She has always been an early waker, since birth. Her bedtime is 8:30 and she is usually up by 6:30. She wakes several times a night; reasons range from sore throat, stomach ache, to nightmares, and she gets out of bed each time to come to my room. We put her back to bed, and in a few hours she does it again. She does have mild acid-reflux which we are treating, so I don't think that's a factor; I think she knows telling us her stomach/throat hurt will seem like a legitimate reason to come get us so she uses that excuse. I know she's not getting enough sleep, by afternoon she's cranky, and she often will fall asleep on the couch at 7:30 or 8. We wake her up, and she goes to bed at her normal bedtime. I don't want to make her bedtime earlier, we've tried that and all it did was result in her being up for the day at 5:30 instead of 6:30. Once every week or so she crashes at 7:30 or 8 and sleeps till 7 the next day without getting up; then the cycle repeats. We've started telling her before bed that we've given her all the medicine she can have (true, her acid reflux meds are before bed) and that we can't do anything for her - to just roll over and go back to sleep. I feel awful doing that, but at the same time I'm afraid she's developing a bad habit of waking at night and she needs to learn how to put herself back to sleep.
Should I have her evaluated for sleep disoders? How can I keep her in bed at night?

ETA:
She is treated by a pediatric gastroenterologist, and her reflux was diagnosed as mild after extensive testing. She sleeps on her stomach on top of an enormous stuffed bear, so she’s at about a 30 degree angle. She takes probiotics and digestive enzymes in the morning, and we give her melatonin at night. With the Melatonin she might wake 1 or sometimes 2 times a night, without it she wakes 3 - 4 times. However I worry about giving her melatonin indefinitely, there just isn’t enough research.

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L.P.

answers from Pittsfield on

Maybe the medication she's on isn't helping her enough. I have acid problems too, and the medication I was on stopped helping me enough, and I had to be switched to a different medication.

Is she being treated for the acid reflux by her pedi, or a pediatric gastroenterologist? If she's not seeing the pediatric gastroenterologist, I strongly recommend taking her to one. Acid can do a lot of damage, and while she could be exaggerating, better to be on the safe side rather than to find out when it's much worse.

If she's not already, try having her sleep with her head slightly elevated- might help some, but she might just need a med change. Good luck :)

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K.F.

answers from Dallas on

Just a thought, since you aren't sure what's causing it . . . give her an incentive to stay in bed (say a special toy or outing if she doesn't get up for three nights, or a week, or whatever you deam appropriate). Make sure it's something she really wants but start small, and maybe work up to more time and something bigger. Tell her that if she really needs you she won't get in trouble, but that you really want her to have the treat so she should really try to put herself back to sleep without waking you. If she is able to do it, then you've broken the habit and you know it was just that, a habit. If she isn't, then you know you have a bigger issue and you can address that . . . . I'm so sorry. It's hard when our babies have issues (mine is 8), especially when they effect our sleep, too. It's hard to be patient when you are exhausted. Good luck!!

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S.H.

answers from Honolulu on

Well, she sounds over tired. Which you know.
Since she wakes so much. That interrupts... the actual sleep she is getting.

Kids, DO wake up at certain times. It is just them. It cannot be, tweaked much. ALL my friends and my own kids, wake at a certain time in the morning, no matter what time they go to bed at night.
Then once they hit another age change... ie: Teens, their sleep changes and their wake up times, too.

IF she is passing out on the couch... why not just let her be. Don't wake her. That is interrupting her sleep. Again.

Also, maybe she just needs to nap sometimes??? My daughter, is 8. And she will nap after school, at times. She gets tired. But she still goes to bed at her normal time. When she is this tired and naps... it is because her body and her... is basically "catching-up" on missed sleep and needed sleep. Because... lack of sleep, compounds. It accumulates like a ripple effect.
If a child never catches up with their sleep, then they will always be, over-tired.
Being over-tired, causes a host of problems. From inability to pay attention, to fussiness, to overall lethargy.
And being over-tired, actually makes it HARDER for a child to sleep, to fall asleep, and to stay asleep.
Sleep deprivation... actually makes sleep worse. And messes up a body's natural cycles.

What does she do before bed? Maybe, she needs to have a wind-down time before bed. Like 1 hour before the actual bedtime.
That is what I do with my kids. It changes, their mode. "Allowing" them, to key down. BEFORE bed. Not at, bedtime.
We make the house dark. Do quiet things. I verbally cue them. No horse-playing before bed.

Also at this age, they DO have night-time fears, which is developmental based. And they do have nightmares. And these things can wake them.
My Daughter is 8, and she and her friends, DO get scared at night or from their imagination.

There is also something called "Warm Mik" by the brand Animal Parade. They make natural kids supplements. Warm Milk, is for helping a child sleep. It has properties in it that is like milk. Milk is known to help sleep.

There is also something called "Hyland's Calms Forte-for kids." This is a homeopathic sleep aide for kids. (I use the adult version myself). It is all natural, has Chamomile in it etc. It is non-habit forming and does not create a 'tranquilizer' feel. It simply helps bring calm to a person. For me, it does help me, and so I can sleep.

You can look both of these up online like on Amazon and read the reviews of it there.
I have friends, who have used in for their kids, when sick or on a trip.

Both of these, can also be found at Whole Foods and natural food stores.

I think, no matter what, when your daughter just falls asleep, even if on the couch... just let her be. Don't interrupt her sleep and wake her.
There have been times, with my kids that I just let them sleep, where they are. And did not wake them just to move them. Because, I know that they are VERY overtired at those times. They just need to sleep. Uninterrupted.

There has also been times... when my son, has actually fallen asleep per his nap... and slept FOURTEEN hours straight, until the next morning! He is an active boy and at growth-spurts, he tends to do this. NEEDS sleep. Then he grows so much. And his development takes leaps.
My daughter also, would do this sometimes.
I NEVER EVER woke them, at these junctures. I go by my kids' cues. For sleep and naps.

No matter how old, some kids just really still need to nap. Occasionally. My son is 4, and he still naps every day. He needs it. He naps and still goes to bed at a normal time. It does not get in the way of him sleeping at night bedtime.

Per her reflux, maybe she really is feeling those discomforts. Or, does she get heartburn from it??? Even if on medication... a person can still have discomfort.

Or, let her sleep on the floor of your room.
That is what we do with our kids, if/when needed.

When I was a child, I would go to my parents room in the middle of the night. I simply got scared in my room by myself. They let me be near them and sleep. I grew out of it. They knew that. It is one of my fondest memories of them, as a child.

Kids are typically early wakers.
They just wake early.
My kids wake at 6:30 too. They were always that way, since they were babies. Its fine.
Kids don't wake, or sleep in like adults.

Anyway, just some thoughts.
Sorry for rambling.
My fingers just would not stop typing. :)

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K.K.

answers from Dallas on

she's not on any allergy medications?

I think Dr. Chalmers would be of help to you for her sleep and reflux issues---he has been a great help with my daughter.

http://chalmerswellness.com

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S.M.

answers from Dallas on

Is there a chance she could be ADHD? My son would do the same at night, but the psychiatrist gave us Geodon for his sleeping. Now everyone gets sleep.

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H.M.

answers from Dallas on

I have not read the other responces. I used to have night mirrors. And I think my son does too. My mom has encuraged me to try to talk to him when he says he has them about them to see what it was about and to asure him he was ok. See a year ago St. Pattys day he gashed his head open and had to get 19 stitches and just about a month ago he told me hed been dreaming about that almost every night since then. We dont have a clue what our kids are dreaming. We need to make sure they feel safe. I am not saying you dont make her feel safe. But if that is her reason ask her what it was about and if she's using that as an excuse you might be able to figure that out for sure. And as for using the melatonin I think you can use it every night. I know my sister in law uses it one my nephews everynight and their dr told her to. Just some ideas. Sounds like you try to stay pretty ontop of things with her! What a good momma!!!

Good luck and God Bless!!!!

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