Potty Training Regression - Tacoma,WA

Updated on July 07, 2008
R.M. asks from Perryville, MD
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Our daughter was a late potty trainer, we finally got her trained at 4 yrs old. The problem is that in the last week or so she has had a lot of acciddents both daytime and at bedtime. She will be 5 in october and this shouldnt be happening. Im not sure how to help her get back on track because im not even sure what the actual problem is.

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A.C.

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Have there been any changes that have taken place. It doesnt even have to be a big one. My son, is almost 5 and when ever change happens and he cant control it his potty training always suffers. I have learned that this is something the kids use because it is something they can control. My dr. said the biggest thing is not to make a big deal out of it. Be supportive, give her things that she can have control over that makes her feel more empowered. With my son it has always been a control issue, and giving him choices, like we let him pick out what he wears, When we buy him clothes, or shoes we let him choose. Just these little thing have helped him with his control and change issues. Good Luck

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H.D.

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Hi R.,

It is very common for children who have "mastered" toilet learning to regress. There are typically many triggers for this, but change and stress are usually big ones that come into play. The change could be as sudden as something new that might have happened last week or something that she had 'adjusted to' a month or so ago. Changes in living arrangement (if your spouse has been deployed or returned recently), care arrangements (where and with whom she spends her days), or if she has moved homes recently can all be big factors. Even good changes can be stressful, and kids don't usually have the tools or self-knowledge to articulate their feelings; consequently, they manifest themselves in regressive behavior. Think of it as a short-circuit of sorts, a cue that "something's not comfortable" in their world. One child I know even began regressing before a big change (starting a new school) because her parents were so busy talking about it and preparing her for it months in advance that she simply felt overwhelmed, although the actual change hadn't yet occured.

Another cause of wetting could be a child's knowledge of their selves, and wanting control of their own lives, to a degree. I've worked with kids who asked repeatedly for diapers, and when denied, have had accidents. The children knew, at that time, they needed a little extra help. Perhaps they needed a break from constantly having to be tuned into their bodies cues, to stop what they enjoyed doing and use the bathroom. Personally, when kids ask for diapers, I have learned that it is least damaging to our relationship and their self-esteem try to accomodate them. This also diminishes the chance of it becoming a power struggle.

There's one other option, and that is that the regression is being continued by a desire for attention. Kids who have accidents get a lot of attention, even if it is the form of an upset adult. If children are acting out of a desire for attention, it won't matter to them that it is a positive or negative interaction-- attention is still attention. Your daughter is at an age that simply taking her to the bathroom and handing her a plastic bag to put her wet clothes in is all that's necessary in way of interaction. If it were me, I wouldn't even venture any emotional comments, but would keep the conversation straightforward. "Oh, you've had another accident. Well, come to the bathroom, you'll need to change yourself." I'd leave some wipes in there too, and just do the bare minimum to keep it from becoming a mess.

In cases like these, I like to keep conversation about it to a minimum. Some adults rail on and on about the accidents and messes, "You're too old for this" or "I thought you were a big kid!" and assign some sort of consequence to it. Others go the opposite way and begin to offer sticker charts, rewards and 'incentives'. I think there's a danger in punishing or rewarding someone's struggle in an area they have already mastered.

Refrain from commenting on it in front of your daughter to other people. She is obviously struggling with something, and the last thing that will help is to gain a sense that messes are becoming "expected" of them.

For what it's worth, accidents and pants messing is rarely an outward aggressive behavior, although we tend to treat it as such. Usually, it's a genuine struggle within a child, coping with stress, change, or figuring out how to regulate themselves while having the freedom they desire. In short, treating it like "bad behavior" is typically counterproductive to it not happening again.

I know this is a lot to think about, but I hope there is something in here that rings true to your situation. All of the kids I've worked with that experienced regression were great kids. They weren't using these accidents to act out, however, how the families each handled these situations really determined how quickly each of them were resolved, and to what degree the child's self-esteem was affected. I know it's hard, but try to be cool, ask your daughter what she thinks she needs, and eventually, this too will pass.

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M.H.

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Hello R.,

This is EXACTLY what happened with my 4 year old daughter. I was getting so frustrated, finally I relaxed and went back to asking her more if she had to go potty, and actively helping her to the toilet more. It got a lot better once I relaxed and stopped getting worked up about her messy her pants. She does it once in a blue moon now. She is just over 5 years old. Stay relaxed, keep smiling and give her a break. And a big hug to you and your military family!

Positively,
M.

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S.M.

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R., my oldest was potty trained for #1 at 2 years, but the # 2 took till she was 4. We never had problems with bed wetting she is almost 8 now. However about 6 months ago she started wetting herself. I work in healthcare so my thoughts were a UTI or something has her scared. I took her to the doctor and had her evaluated, she has an over active bladder.

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L.G.

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I would take her in to your family physician to make sure she doesn't have some kind of infection. If that is not the issue, then is it possible that she is undergoing some kind of stress? That can make them regress. After studying Early Childhood Education and working with children for years, I ended up bribing my daughter to stay dry. :) She was nearly 5 and was dealing with some very stressful situations. I used a good ol' fashioned star chart. For every night she stayed dry, (her issue was nighttime regression,)she got a star. Money was a serious issue for me at the time, so I told her that for every ten stars, she got a cool sticker, and when she got to 30 stars,I took her to Baskin Robbins for ice cream. Anyway, it worked! I don't know if this helps you or not, but at least know that I appreciate your frustration. God bless you and yours! :)

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J.G.

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Have there been any changes in her diet, routine, family situation, did you move recently, or a close friend or relative move. Seriously consider anything that could upset her. Any illnesses or surgeries?

I noticed a connection with bedwetting with my kids when they were about to get sick.. .even if it was a mild cold or a stomach bug. They wet the bed one or two nights in a row then they came down with something.

If it took her a while to become fully potty trained.. some setbacks are to be expected now and then. You may want to take her to her pediatrician though, to rule out any physiological causes - if you can't think of any emotional stress she might be experiencing It may be something very simple that you might not consider traumatic. Even switching around her furniture or bedding or changing rooms. If you identify it.. talk to her about it... and reassure her of the things that will not change (i.e. YOU will always be her mommy and nothing will ever change that etc.)

best wishes.

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A.C.

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Same thing happened to me, and I basically had to kinda start over. I started making sure she went to the potty several times during the day, and she got back into the swing of it after a couple months. My doctor said it happens to alot of toddlers, especially after a bg change in their life/routine. But don't punish discipline her for having accidents...it really just makes it worse. Jus help her to get to the bathroom regularly! Take heart, it will pass!

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M.B.

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R.,

You are *NOT* the only one with a late potty trainer. My son will be 5 in October as well, and has only been trained since around April. One thing that helped us tremendously was having a conversation about going potty. Through that conversation I learned that we had monsters in our toilet that were trying to get him/his poop.

Your daughter is old enough, and able, to verbalize what is wrong, as long as you ask the right questions. :) It took me about 20 minutes to get the monster thing out of my son. When talking with her, find a time that is calm and there is no pressure about anything. Start with, "Is there anything about going potty that scares you?" that's what opened the door for my son. He was shy, and thought he'd get in trouble if he said yes, but when I stayed calm, and interested, he opened up and told me.

Hope this helps,
Melissa
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D.L.

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I would check to make sure she doesn't have a urinary tract infection (or other medical issue). If not, then you will want to find out what things are going on in her life that might be scaring her or making her nervous. Has she had any changes lately? You said you're married to the military... is dad away on deployment?

I'm sure she could just be distracted and having too much fun to stop and go potty. But most times when older kids start having accidents, they have some kind of change in their life that is out of their control. Good luck! I'm sure she'll get back on track soon enough. :-)

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J.S.

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Oh I remember this! My daughter was trained by the time she was 2-1/2...but after a long trip, she had several accidents and then told me "mom, this is just too hard" so back into diapers we went. That was fine, she was still pretty young. When she got more dependable and moved to underpants, she was fine for awhile and then started having "mini" accidents. This persisted until she was almost 5. My doc chalked it up to being too interested in life! I loved that. She was too busy doing whatever she was doing to be bothered with going to the bathroom and so she would "pinch" in her pants. Not alot but just enough to relieve the pressure so she could stay with her friends and not have to be distracted. Oh this was so frustrating. And, as with most things I was frustrated with, there wasn't alot I could do. I could cajole, bribe, be disappointed...none of it worked. I gave up, gave in, and guess what, she got over it.

The doc said something else that took a bit of the pressure off me, made me laugh...she said, look it's fun for boys to pee, they get to aim, get things wet, they can pee basically where ever they are...girls have to actually disengage..they have to leave their friends and it's not as fun. Of course! The light went on.. I loved my doctor that day :-)

And the nighttime thing...I think when their little bodies are ready, they can handle themselves through the night. Until they are ready there's not alot we can do. My daughter wore pull ups til she was almost 8. We limited drinks in the evening but still it took awhile. And I was the same way when I was a kid but we had no pull ups. My mother was beyond frustrated!

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