HELP! My Sweet Little Girl Turned 4 and Went Crazy!

Updated on December 08, 2009
J.T. asks from Virginia Beach, VA
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hello everyone. my daughter turned 4 in july and since then has been difficult to say the least. she acts out frequently and seems to enjoy aggravating me. if i tell her to do something she does not or does the opposite. she is very stubborn and simple every day tasks like brushing teeth have become a constant struggle. everyone talks about the terrible twos but i feel like we are going through the terrible fours! is this common? does anyone have any advice? ive tried spanking, time out, yelling, positive reenforcement, talking about feelings, and just ignoring it but nothing sticks. will this ever end??? thanks!

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B.K.

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OMG...I just had to write on this one. My daughter is 4 (will be 5 in January) and she is the SAME EXACT way. We now struggle with brushing her teeth, going potty, going to sleep~just normal day to day things. Not that she doesn't do them, but it is just a CONSTANT STRUGGLE. Either she is dragging her feet or being flip. It is really good to hear that we are not the only ones. Normally, she is a great kid with good manners~she has been taught well and is very smart, but around us, sometimes she just likes pusing buttons! I honestly believe she is feeling her oats. They are doing what they can to see how we will react. Hopefully it will end soon for both of us....just try to be patient, patient, patient! (giglle) I know easier said then done, right?!?!?!

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K.A.

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Hi J., I'm homeschooling my 4 1/2 year old using a Waldorf emphasis, so if these blogs seem way out there, that's understandable. They helped me understand my little girl better and hope they do the same for you:

http://theparentingpassageway.com/2009/02/04/fantastic-fo...

http://theparentingpassageway.com/2009/06/03/more-about-t...

http://theparentingpassageway.com/2009/02/07/peaceful-lif...

The last mom was right, she is definitely going through a stage of development and the more you can stand back and redirect her without becoming emotionally involved (taking it personally) the more you will see positive results. Good luck and enjoy your beautiful daughter!

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A.B.

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All I can say is that daughters do have an extra special way of rubbing Mommy the wrong way. You'll see this behavior again when she approaches 6* (firsthand experience), 13** (friends have told me this one), and 15 (what I remember being a teen). I know quite a few parents who have teens and young adults who stay glued to their cell phones texting messages to them because the youth feel like adults, yet still make uninformed choices. Parenting is quite a job. It gets really interesting when they turn 11, and they start sharing with you the things they encounter. Ugh! Anyway, be patient and try to throw in some quality time to build a strong relationship. You will need that foundation when she needs to talk to you about those serious issues of life. This is a period of development, most likely, in which she is trying to assert her "independence". You can take advantage of this newfound independence by adding responsibilities to her schedule to acknowledge her new "big girl" status and teach her that her rebellious behavior is not reflecting her new "big girl" status. Of course, depending on the crime, you may still have to use various corrective measures you mentioned in your email. Just make sure not to use any one too much, as it can lose impact. There's a fine line in using reverse psychology, corporal punishment, teaching, and positive reinforcement, all of which I believe is the true art of parenting. Behavior charts are great, and help the child monitor his/her own behavior. She can put a star in an area if she managed to accomplish a task with a correct attitude. And, I can't stress enough the importance of having positive experiences, like baking together, reading together, drawing or painting together, etc. Even in our marriages, that is important. I believe a minister once called it making positive deposits into one's emotional bank account. Also, read the book "1-2-3 Magic" by Dr. Thomas W. Phelan for more ideas on changing negative behavior.

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D.C.

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It's completely normal. She's exploring her boundaries and independence and it's actually a very healthy progression. Spankings and yelling are never going to work and if anything are going to instill in your child that hitting and yelling are acceptable ways of dealing with situations and people. Stay calm and give her consequences to not listening ie., if you don't do this you're going to loose this or not be able to do this and then stick with it. The most important thing, child development wise, is to let her "win" 49% of the time. It may be challenging now, but it's normal, healthy and necessary! :-)

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R.A.

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It's the age, I was lucky and was warned before my daughter turned 4 and she is now 6 and has pretty much gone back to being my very sweet good little girl, but she was a terror for a while, as were most of her friends.

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T.B.

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just on a side note. I have had a "spirited" child for the last 2 years and 8 months. please check out the book raising your spirited child. it's quite an eye opener and will really help before school starts!
good luck! also share your concerns with your pediatrician!

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C.B.

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It's all about independence now, especially for girls. Make her a chart for the mornings with her chores/hygiene responsibilities. Pick out two outfits the night before and let her choose which in the morning. Turn it over to her. You follow the list (use pictures) and be down in time for breakfast and there will be a reward. Give her choices often, but never more than 2 as she will get overwhelmed. Also, never ask "Do you want to get dressed now?" if you aren't prepared to hear no! State what you expect and give her two choices. If she doesn't act appropriately she goes to time out for 4 minutes. No fuss from you, just "okay, I see you made your choice". Calm voice. No emotion. Instant time out - don't talk it through. The ideal scenario is she'll enjoy the choices and will make one after figuring out not making one will earn her time out. Just a suggestion. I always found 4 to be a very tough age. Good Luck! C.

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S.M.

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I am in the same boat as you. i thougth it was due to my daughter starting pre-school and just trying to be independant. She has figured out what buttons to push to drive her dad and I nuts! We just take it with a smile and remind ourselves she is 4. My advice for you is to stand your ground with her. We also do "quiet time". If she gets to be a bit too much we tell her that we need some quiet time. She goes in her rooms to play and I get a few minutes of quiet. This is a phase and most kids go through it. She has to test her limits every once in a while.

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C.J.

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OMG!! I thought it was just my daughter. She was the "perfect" little girl until she turned 4. Heard about the terrible twos and threes as well, and also the teen years. But 4 took me by surprise. Lots of frustrated days! She is turning 5 in about a month and a half, and it seems as though she is slowly starting to get back to "normal".

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S.D.

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My daughters preschool teacher told me that this phase is called the ferocious fours. Boy were they ever right. I have the same problem with my little girl. I thought I was the only one with a child who acts like this. I have tried everything that you have tried with no luck. If you find something that works could you please let me know. Some days she is a very well behaved little girl and other days I think she is possesed. I hope you find the answer.

S.

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K.F.

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This is totally normal! I thought my DSD would be better by 4, but her terrible 2's lasted till she was at least 5!! Just be consistent and firm. I would write the rules/guidelines, so she would be able to have something to follow, then if she breaks a rule, have a list of consequences. My daughter was so stubborn because she didn't care what we took away or how she got in trouble. We would say she got no TV privileges, so she would say, "That's ok, I didn't want to watch TV any way." So we would take her video games away, etc and it went on and on till she had nothing left....the only thing she really didn't like was standing in the corner. I didn't care where we were - if she got an attitude, she would stand in the corner - and let me tell you, if we were in public, she would get embarrassed and shape up really quickly. She may not have cared as much at home, but for 4 year olds, this method still works....we have had only minor issues with her telling the truth and being irresponsible since she has gotten older, but she is a lot more caring and a lot less selfish than before...don't worry - it gets better with age!! It will continue to be hard with a strong-willed child, but just remember this as a strength instead of a flaw - she will be less likely to bow to peer pressure when she gets older if she learns how to stand her ground. :) Just pray for patience in the meantime!! Also - this advice helped me a lot - http://www.focusonthefamily.com/parenting/effective_bibli...
there are also books and books on tape, etc for this as well....they are great!!

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K.L.

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Was she sweet and easy up until age 4? I think every kid goes through the "terrible 2's" - just not always at age 2! Mine were the terrible 3's. Keep disciplining her and showing her boundaries - hopefully it's just the stage all kids go through and she'll be sweet again when she turns 5 :)

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C.L.

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Do an obedient list and reward system. If she does not comply to what is on the list she gets a check and if she does, then she gets a reward. Make rewards something she chooses and really enjoys.
Consistency is the key. Whatever dicipline you choose, STICK With IT! To many variations and your child wont take you seriously. Good luck.

K.S.

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I have been working with early education for 10 years and I want you to know she is just trying to learn how far she can push it. However you need to rememeber she is going to try to push the same issue many many times to see how serious you are about your boundries. I know it can be trying but working with 4 year olds can be a very rewarding as well. Just remember to be consistant and if she doesn't listen walk it through with her for example if you want her to brush her teeth calmy walk her or carry her to the bathroom turn the water on put the toopaste on the toothbrush and hand her the toothbrush and if she leaves do it again. Just don't give up because then you do you will have to start all over again. The trick, be more stubborn than she is (just stay calm, they can see it getting to you and will continue to push). Good luck and God bless

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